Standing up from guard

[Commissar]

I've been reading some threads where some of you complain when somebody stands up from your guard.

I often stand up from my opponent's guard to pass. It's an effective way to pass said guard.

What are your objections to it? I can't think of any.

 

[pollo loco]

I don't really have any objections to it, when they stand up they make it more challenging for you to keep guard. I usually do it alot too, especially in tournaments it seems alot easier to pass someones guard while your standing

 

[Aesopian]

The only time I can understand getting mad at someone standing in your guard is when you just started sparring and they leap to their feet to try to jump over you.

Other than that, all of my best guard passes are from standing. Anyone complaining about that kind of standing is a viado.

 

[The Colonel]

I don't have any objections to it since I pass standing very often whenever doing MMA type grappling.

In just straight grappling though some guys have such a good closed guard and they are so good at breaking down your base that you have to stand just to get something going. Other guys have incredible open guards so you're better off passing from your knees.

 

[Half Boston Crab]

This is hardly even a thread.
You basically have to stand up in someone's guard in order to pass it, at least against someone who's good on the ground, it's a part of the game.

The only thing would be if you're practising Judo, where the referee breaks it up and starts the match from standing, as soon as you stand up in the guard.

In that case, there's not much of a reason to practise standing guard passes.

 

[mmacheesedhead]

if my opponent is holding my gi or neck, i will stand up and take them with me so they either have to let go and start again from standup (which is my advantage) or it tires them out trying to keep their legs locked that whole time. One thing to do if they don't let go is to kind of bounce or jump to force them to let go

 

[Kimuralex]

sometimes if im rolling with someone new I ask them if its ok if i jump up in their guard, just because i would imagine a few people dont like that. My guard passes without standing are virtually inexistent unless the guys playing open/butterfly so i feel i need to stand to get something going.

 

[jyd233]

i find that i almost never stand in guard unless strikes are involved (in which case it friggin rules)

from my experience, if i have the posture to be able to stand, then i have the posture to back up and break his guard open. then it's all about the slide pass. i like to give as little space as possible.

 

[Big Eck]

I recently took an intro at a place that preaches standing passes almost exclusively over ground passes. I learned a couple of good ones as well.

 

[Sambo234]

The only time I can understand getting mad at someone standing in your guard is when you just started sparring and they leap to their feet to try to jump over you.

Other than that, all of my best guard passes are from standing. Anyone complaining about that kind of standing is a viado.

how else am I supposed to practice my cart wheel guard pass?

 

[Stephan Kesting]

Might you be confusing people complaining about competitors refusing to play guard and getting back to their feet whenever they are on the bottom?

Stephan Kesting
www.grapplearts.com

 

[cheesesteak]

ankle grab sweep anyone?

 

[philong]

ankle grab sweep anyone?

Thank you.
I don't care if someone stands in my guard since it leads to me sweeping them and mounting.

 

[Half Boston Crab]

philong:
Thank you.
I don't care if someone stands in my guard since it leads to me sweeping them and mounting.

If that happens very often, you really should do something to get better competition.

 

[Meecrob]

It's funny that you mention this because I was recently drilling standing guard passes and the counter for them. The only problem is that I was with a guy who had 6 inches and 80 pounds on me. Suffice it to say, keeping your guard closed against a much taller standing opponent is quite tough, especially when they can just throw your leg off. Personally, I prefer to pass guard on the ground whenever the person makes any sort of move by opening his guard or whatnot.

 

[Half Boston Crab]

Meecrob:
Personally, I prefer to pass guard on the ground whenever the person makes any sort of move by opening his guard or whatnot.

I used to do like that, but then I realized that people that are good usually don't open their guard until they're in such a good position that they can go for a triangle or armbar right away.

If you play like that, you let the guy on the bottom take the initiative.