Squats = increased Testosterone. True or False.

This was a valid study that dispels a lot of the bullshit myths you read on the internet about squatting to raise your testosterone.

I'm all for dispelling bullshit myths too since they seem to be rampant in the world of nutrition and exercise bro-science. I just don't think that one study was definitive by any means, especially since they used few subjects and didn't test for long-term adaptation. I expect that even if they did test many subjects doing heavy squats for months that they'd probably find an insignificant increase in T levels anyway but that's just my opinion.

In the end, I agree that it's not even that important of a question. If doing squats will increase muscle mass, strength, bone density, balance, and a host of other health benefits, then I don't see the point of overselling it by making dubious claims about it's hormonal effects. Still, I wonder if there's a grain of truth in there.
 
pretty much sums it up. Do you simply want 'higher test levels' or do you want
to have 'more muscle, strenght, and power?'
If you answer the latter then squats are your best friend

...I think that's the point. Because squats can increase testosterone levels, they help make you bigger and stronger.
 
...I think that's the point. Because squats can increase testosterone levels, they help make you bigger and stronger.

...and you don't think the fact that they use a lot of muscle to move signifcant weight over a large range of motion is bar far the more signifcant element, even if it were true that squats increased test. in a meaningful amount?
 
...So the answer to getting stronger is squats and porn. But seriously, do you have a link to a study or article on this? I'm interested on knowing more of the specifics.

I don't have a good link to an actual study, but I've seen references to this repeatedly.

What Fixes Low Testosterone Best: Meds or Porn? - Newsweek

Article that I don't have full access to with hypothesis relating to effects of arousal on testosterone levels

Berardi article in which he asserts (with no link to study) relationship between watching porn and stimulation of leutenizing hormone.

Actually, as I continued to look for links, I think I found a reference to the actual study (at least the author's name and institute):

Sign in to read: How pornography turns women on too - 22 August 1998 - New Scientist
 
scientifically yes its true. the larger muscles moreso. but its not significant enuf to case growth on its own
 
If squats don't increase test levels then that's the only thing they won't do for you.
 
Was there even any study that squats increased testosterone in the first place or did a strong squatter just said it
 
...and you don't think the fact that they use a lot of muscle to move signifcant weight over a large range of motion is bar far the more signifcant element, even if it were true that squats increased test. in a meaningful amount?

I think they go together like bread and butter is what I'm saying.
 
Big compound lifts, like squats, increase serum testosterone levels acutely. That means they elevate for a little while and then go back to baseline. Iirc, bodybuilding/hypetrophy-type work increases serum levels more than max-strength training.

The current data points out to there being localized factors on the cell receptor level that make or break the deal. I.e., test levels are elevated, but only the muscles that get worked with the big compound lifts get to adapt in order to take advantage of the acutely increased levels.
 
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Big compound lifts, like squats, increase serum testosterone levels acutely. That means they elevate for a little while and then go back to baseline. Iirc, bodybuilding/hypetrophy-type work increases serum levels more than max-strength training.

The current data points out to there being localized factors on the cell receptor level that make or break the deal. I.e., test levels are elevated, but only the muscles that get worked with the big compound lifts get to adapt in order to take advantage of the acutely increased levels.

Source on second paragraph? All the research I have seen demonstrate no measurable benefit.
 
Source on second paragraph? All the research I have seen demonstrate no measurable benefit.

I don't see how you could isolate it. If you say "only the muscles you work get the local testosterone advantages", then how do you isolate the muscle gain that is related to testosterone from the muscle gain from lifting heavy weights?
 
I don't see how you could isolate it. If you say "only the muscles you work get the local testosterone advantages", then how do you isolate the muscle gain that is related to testosterone from the muscle gain from lifting heavy weights?

Re-read the thread. There was a study posted here that addressed this posted on this forum months ago and I described it in this thread.
 
Source on second paragraph? All the research I have seen demonstrate no measurable benefit.

While there is doubt on the hormonal responses to squats, there is no doubt that big compound lifts have a big effect on muscle hypertrophy. On the other hand, there is no doubt that the mechanism of muscle hypertrophy (including specific hypertrophy of the proteins for the type II fibers whenever that is the case) is triggered by hormonal mechanisms because, if the muscle cell upregulates its contractile protein production, then there has to be some kind of endocrinal trigger for this procedure.

It is well documented that heavy compound exercises induce the elevation of testosterone and HGH, but both of them return to normal levels within ~30 minutes. Furthermore, strength training doesn't induce elevations of resting HGH at all, and, at the moment, it is not clear whether it induces elevations in resting testosterone.

That is not to say that their impact on the hormonic mechanisms is insignificant. There is evidence to support that the most important changes for both those hormones might be on the receptor level (via up-regulation/down-regulation and changes in receptor sensitivity).

This is taken from Strength and Power in Sports, this part is written by Kraemer & Ratamess (Kraemer also co-authored Science and Practice of Strength Training):

Perhaps more significant for long-term endocrine adaptations to resistance training is the number of androgen receptors (e.g. via up-regulation or down-regulation) potentially interacting with the biologically active free testosterone. [...] Resistance training has been shown to up-regulate androgen receptors in rats (Inoue et al. 1993). [...] Bamman et al. (2001) compared concentric and eccentric loading (8 sets of squats) and reported that androgen receptor mRNA increased 63% following the eccentric loading and 102% following the concentric loading without concomitant increases in serum testosterone concentrations. These results indicate a positive adaptation at the cellular level without significant changes in circulating hormones. It appears that muscle contractility and/or mechanical damage has a potent effect in regulating androgen receptor number, thereby increasing the likelihood of hormonal interaction and subsequent protein synthesis.


Until fairly recently, the research in endocrinological responses to strength training (and different types thereof) was focused on how each strength training program affects the serum hormone levels (acute and resting) and how those hormone levels affect strength performance. This was also the premise of study you are referring to. Now there are strong indications that the main mechanism (at least in regards to testosterone and HGH) of adaptation to strength training might not be hormone secretion but rather adaptations at the level of cell receptors.

To oversimplify, instead of producing a greater amount of serum hormones, the muscle cells might adapt to make a greater use of the existing circulating hormones.
 
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