Spider Guard to back

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  1. SPRAWL42

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  2. Shemhazai

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    I have a feeling that this move wouldn't work if the top guy put any weight on his forward leg.

    Anybody have a chance to try this?
     
  3. Shemhazai

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    I have a feeling that this move wouldn't work if the top guy put any weight on his forward leg.

    Anybody have a chance to try this?
     
  4. mtruitt76

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    I have never seen a back tack like that off the spider guard. I play a lot of spider guard so I will give it a shot, but I don't think it will be very effective.
     
  5. Spoken

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    I could see you getting this on noobs. Last thing I'd ever do is sit through when my arms are completely controlled.
     
  6. SPRAWL42

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    Thats actually what makes it easy. As hes driving forward I extend my hook up and out clearing the leg and to finish i take the sleeve that was on the bicep and I drag it across pulling him into me. I never seen this before I just wanted to see what you guys thought about it and if it would actually work on someone above my level.
     
  7. Spoken

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    I dont think it would work ^
     
  8. SPRAWL42

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    Cool thanks for the help.
     
  9. Spoken

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    not sure if serious. lol

    The reason I dont think it would work is because most people wont sit through if they're completely controlled. It totally opens them up to SO much more than getting their back taken.

    However, in a tournament or something like that, people can freak out and step through I guess... you never know.
    But I wouldn't count on this as something that would work on upper belts.

    ps. wasn't trying to be a d-bag with my short answer
     
  10. SPRAWL42

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    I was being serious haha. I totally understand what youre saying, I sure wouldnt sit thorugh like that with both sleeves controlled. Thanks man.
     
  11. El Beebo

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    I've been playing a lot of spider guard recently. I'll give it a try tonight. Although from my experience most opponents back out when you have the double sleeve grips like that. But you never know until you try it...I suppose if they were frustrated enough and thought they saw an easy pass they might try to step through.
     
  12. ItsArun

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    There is a more effective way to take the back thru DLR (granted, not spider, but in your vid you already have one reverse DLR hook in anyways).

    For the DLR backtake, you can take your time and stay in control the whole time.

    In the back-take you posted, you cannot. That is the reason why ppl (including myself) might seem apprehensive about the efficiency of that move; it appears to rely on your opponent not having correct posture/you being faster than your opponent.

    But hey, what the hell do I know..
     
  13. SPRAWL42

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    Good point, thanks for the opinion!
     
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    NP, by the way if you're interested in taking someone's back via a reverse DLR hook (with greater control), I suggest going for the invert ala the Mendes bros (which is what I do :icon_chee)...see below:

     
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    cool move.

    but in such position, I would have switch to a sit up guard and would have fed his left sleeve to my left had under his right instead.
     
  16. SPRAWL42

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    Thats one of my favorites! This is the first move that got me into playing with a reverse de la riva hook.
     

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