Southern Italians genetically distinct from Northern Italians. Diversity goes back 19K years

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Italy's north south genetic divide revealed: First-ever study into Italians' genetic diversity reveals it dates back 19,000 years

Yes it is the tabloid Daily Mail tabloid but they do link to the actual scientific paper.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...diversity-reveals-dates-19-000-years-ago.html


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Northern Italians are like Northern Euros. Southern Italians are more like Greeks and Mediterranean folks. Sardinians are unique in retaining ancient Neolithic Anatolian farmer dna.

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https://phys.org/news/2020-05-earli...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Results also show that there are genetic peculiarities characterizing people living in the north and south of Italy that evolved in response to different environments.


The DNA of people living in northern Italy shows traces of these post-glacial migrations. If compared to individuals from southern Italy, Italians from the north present a close genetic relation to human remains attributed to ancient European cultures such as the Magdalenian and the Epigravettian cultures and dated respectively between 19,000 and 14,000 years ago and between 14,000 and 9,000 years ago. Moreover, in northern Italians' gene pool, the researchers observed ancestry components that were even more ancient, such as those proper of eastern European hunter-gatherers, which are thought to characterize all European populations between 36,000 and 26,000 years ago, and that later on spread to western Europe with migratory movements from "glacial refugia" during the Late Glacial period.

Conversely, in southern Italians, these post-glacial migrations traces seem to vanish, as more recent events significantly reshaped their gene pool. This is confirmed by their closer genetic relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from south Caucasus.

Nineteen thousand years ago, after the end of the Last Glacial Maximum, ancestors of northern and southern Italians started living in increasingly different environmental and ecological contexts, which gradually led to the emergence of differences and peculiarities in their gene pools.

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https://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12915-020-00778-4

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ook at the stark difference in the Near Eastern ancestry in Northern Italians vs. Southern Italians. And the level of Northern Euro ancestry in Northern Italy vs. Southern Italy. Also the North has a Basque component (component that is highest in Basque peoples) which is lacking in the South.

 
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^^ Yep

Cliffs:

After Rome collapsed and was invaded by Germanic barbarians from the North,
the North of Italy has had Germanic (and some Celtic) European genetics.

The South of Italy has genetic components from the waves of raiders from the south that they had to put up with (Arabic and North African).
 
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I'm willing to bet you'd see a noticable genetic difference from the population of Eastern and Western Sicily. They've changed hands and been conquered more times than anyone else in the Med.

Their aboriginal population has been completely lost/dissolved for 2000 years now too.
 
Also, it's worth noting that the Carthaginians, "Moors", Greeks etc. who did conquer and establish themselves on the Island were still Caucasian populations. As far as I'm aware a sub-Saharan or East African group has never been a part of Sicilian history.

There was a genetically distinct Jewish population on the Island who stayed distinct and then was removed during Spanish rule.
 
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^^ Yep

Cliffs:

After Rome collapsed and was invaded by Germanic barbarians from the North,
the North of Italy has had Germanic (and some Celtic) European genetics.

The South of Italy has genetic components from the waves of raiders from the south that they had to put up with (Arabic and North African).
probably why the south has large penises and look like Mexicans.
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Also, it's worth noting that the Carthaginians, "Moors", Greeks etc. who did conquer and establish themselves on the Island were still Caucasian populations. As far as I'm aware a sub-Saharan or East African group has never been a part of Sicilian history.

There was a genetically distinct Jewish population on the Island who stayed distinct and then was removed during Spanish rule.

The arabs had sub Saharans with them apparently.
 
@JSN right up your ally lol


Italy's north south genetic divide revealed: First-ever study into Italians' genetic diversity reveals it dates back 19,000 years

Yes it is the tabloid Daily Mail tabloid but they do link to the actual scientific paper.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...diversity-reveals-dates-19-000-years-ago.html


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Northern Italians are like Northern Euros. Southern Italians are more like Greeks and Mediterranean folks. Sardinians are unique in retaining ancient Neolithic Anatolian farmer dna.

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https://phys.org/news/2020-05-earli...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Results also show that there are genetic peculiarities characterizing people living in the north and south of Italy that evolved in response to different environments.


The DNA of people living in northern Italy shows traces of these post-glacial migrations. If compared to individuals from southern Italy, Italians from the north present a close genetic relation to human remains attributed to ancient European cultures such as the Magdalenian and the Epigravettian cultures and dated respectively between 19,000 and 14,000 years ago and between 14,000 and 9,000 years ago. Moreover, in northern Italians' gene pool, the researchers observed ancestry components that were even more ancient, such as those proper of eastern European hunter-gatherers, which are thought to characterize all European populations between 36,000 and 26,000 years ago, and that later on spread to western Europe with migratory movements from "glacial refugia" during the Late Glacial period.

Conversely, in southern Italians, these post-glacial migrations traces seem to vanish, as more recent events significantly reshaped their gene pool. This is confirmed by their closer genetic relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from south Caucasus.

Nineteen thousand years ago, after the end of the Last Glacial Maximum, ancestors of northern and southern Italians started living in increasingly different environmental and ecological contexts, which gradually led to the emergence of differences and peculiarities in their gene pools.

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https://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12915-020-00778-4

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ook at the stark difference in the Near Eastern ancestry in Northern Italians vs. Southern Italians. And the level of Northern Euro ancestry in Northern Italy vs. Southern Italy. Also the North has a Basque component (component that is highest in Basque peoples) which is lacking in the South.


not completely correct. The Vikings invaded and colonized southern Italy and implanted their DNA all over the place which is why there are still some blue eyed blondes down there instead of all dark hair, brown eyes.
 
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