Someone define 'out of competition'

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  1. popinjay10

    popinjay10 White Belt

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    Isn't one month out of a title fight considered in competition?
     
  2. RenoBJJr

    RenoBJJr We all know that was a catch.

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    It's exactly what it implies. The only way a fighter can get suspended is if he tests positive right after the fight.
    It needs to be in his system during competition aka during the fight.
     
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    popinjay10 White Belt

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    Ok so post fight testing only matters. Seems strange though that any UFC fighter can do coke everyday of the year except a couple days before fight night without recourse. I mean why even test for it pre-fight then?
     
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    arrelione Red Belt

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    So... why do they even bother testing 1 month out?
     
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    So he can do steroids all year and get popped for it, as long as he doesn
     
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    Define performance enhancing.
     
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    i read somewhere that the basic explanation is that they tested him for coke accidentally lol.
     
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    Because other substances are banned for out of comp positives. They test for everything.
     
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    I think it's only things like recreational drugs that are tolerated out of competition whereas peds would carry the same penalty as in competition testing. That's my understanding of it at least.

    Maybe they just submit the sample for full testing as a matter of protocol, not too sure.
     
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    I'm assuming they noticed the cocaine while testing for other things, rather than specifically testing for it.
     
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    Th3Sav4ge "What the fuck is happening!?"

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    its definitely, but coke can certainly give someone a competitive edge if used on fight night. Im not sayin if someone who never tried it would be enhanced, they would probably shit bricks....but if you have been there, its certainly gonna put more pep in your step and give you more bounce to the ounce (Zapp and roger pun intended)
     
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    Th3Sav4ge "What the fuck is happening!?"

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    its definitely debatable* ^
     
  15. RenoBJJr

    RenoBJJr We all know that was a catch.

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    For banned out of competition drugs such as steroids. It's not like they were looking for coke, they just did the usually random drug test looking for anything that is banned under WADA for out of competition, and he happen to test positive for coke. He just got lucky under WADA it's only banned in competition.

    It's like if he were to test positive for caffeine. Out of competition it's okay but in competition it's banned.
     
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    There is a very good thread on this somewhere. You can test positive for coke/weed during an out of competition period and be alright, if you test for it during a competitive period then you are screwed. On the other hand, PEDs like roids etc. are illegal all year around no matter in or out of competition.
     
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    In-Competition is defined as 12 hours prior to the competition through until the collection of a post-competition sample. Everything else is out of competition. Cocaine is not a drug which is tested for OOC, and ironically the NSAC shouldn't have tested Jones for it.

    If anyone really wants to know which drugs are prohibited in an out of competition then the list can be found here -

    http://www.usada.org/substances/prohibited-list/athlete-guide-2015-prohibited-list/
     
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-jon-jones-was-allowed-to-fight-at-ufc-182-after-positive-drug-test-075021247-mma.html
     
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    "The effects of cocaine on performance are minimal and are limited to increasing arousal and alertness with low doses. As the dose increases, detrimental effects such as reduced co-ordination and unwarranted aggression are frequently reported."

    Not too mention the crash. For every occasion you party with cocaine you're going to lose a few days training feeling like garbage.

    Recreational drugs are permitted out of competition. PED's are not.
     
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