Solution to fence grabbing and eye pokes?

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  1. DragonFly Jones

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    Basically its just a thin piece of leather that covers the fingers with no extra padding inside like boxing gloves. Kinda like heavybag gloves. The only way ppl can grab the fenced with these on is over the top bar. If that happens I think there should be 2 ways to handle it.

    1. If they are holding the top in advance then they should be warned. Multiple warnings = point deduction.

    2. If they immediately hold the top and stop a takedown the ref should stop the fight and reposition them on the mat giving the guy going for the takedown top positon (full guard). No point deduction needed here as the attacker gets points for the takedown anyway.

    Thoughts?

    EDIT: For those who keep talking about how grapplers wont like it. The mitten part isnt smashing the fingers together tightly. Like I said its kinda like heavybag gloves. Your fingers can still move around within the mitten part so you can still spread your fingers for a wider grip.
     
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  2. Go Go Plata

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    mittens!
     
  3. KAZSoliloquy

    KAZSoliloquy Look at the state of his face

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    Koscheck would still find a way to demand a point be taken.
     
  4. gotBooched

    gotBooched maximus entertainus

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    no. it's hard enough to hold a wrist or something as is.
     
  5. EGarrett

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    I saw these gloves earlier today and was thinking about starting a thread exactly like this.

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    But I didn't expect the response to be that positive. :D
     
  6. DragonFly Jones

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    ha ha yes. I actually got this idea from a pair of leather mittens I have. I cut the part that seperates the fingers on a pair of MMA gloves then put the leather mittens on then the MMA glove over it and it worked. lol Camera is broke ATM so I whipped up a picture in photoshop.
    You dont need the fingers to be seperate to hold the wrist man. At least when I hold the wrist I'm either using C grip or monkey grip where my fingers are close together. How does this idea make it harder?
     
  7. Ballist1x

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    Electrify the cage
     
  8. Anung Un Rama

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    I think a better idea would be to just have the index and middle finger in one sleeve and the ring and pinky in another sleeve.

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    I think this could reduce eye-pokes without compromising grip as much as mittens might.
     
  9. Shimdog

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    And the eyeballs
     
  10. Shimdog

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    Ah the old Spock gloves. Live long and prosper son
     
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    I like the idea of the Spock gloves, lol
     
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    Do you know how much harder that would make wrist control considering the gloves would not have that much friction?
     
  13. Guitarmbar

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    The submission game is already compromised enough. This would make it extremely difficult to perform many submissions.

    They need to start retroactively fining guys who grab the fence and throw punches with an open fist. On top of being more strict with point deductions.
     
  14. bloodred

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    I'm sure the BJJ guys would love this.
    You ever tried picking up or hold something with mittens, especially when that something to trying to get away; it'd be near impossible. You'd take away their game. Might as well wear proper gloves and turn it into K1.

    Better would be to keep the fingers but have the gloves full length, it'd help against eyes getting poked because the nail would be covered.
    To stop cage grabbing. I don't know, maybe smaller holes in the fence along with the full length glove would make it harder to get your fingers through the holes in the fence.

    But you're never gonna make it perfect, it's a full contact combat sport.
     
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  15. DragonFly Jones

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    Please explain how spreading your fingers is neccessary for submissions.
     
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    Cool idea bro
     
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    Is this a serious post? Jesus Christ
     
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    The solution to both of these issues is better reffing. Deduct a point straight away for an eye poke, no warning, that will stop Jones fanning out his fingers any time an opponent goes within striking range.

    For the fence grabbing, how about an extra ref outside the cage watching on a monitor. Any time the fence is grabbed to stop a TD, deduct a point.
     
  19. superslime

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    They could just try enforcing the existing rule.
     
  20. MMAATHLETE

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    or fill the cage links open spaces in with something clear?
     

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