So what's your excitement level for Islam vs JDM if that's the one that happens next?

I dont like that the UFC does this with viable contenders. I feel the same way about Ilia tbh but apparently he is making a full move to 155. If Islam loses he will run back down to 155 and try to cut weight again. These guys are weight bullies. I'm a Khabib guy and I'd say the same for him.

Shavkat is as good of a number 1 contender as there is. Buckley beats Usman and we have another solid guy. 170 does not need Islam, and he's going to lose btw
 
I would prefer for both of them to stay in their respective divisions. I usually like champ vs champ fights, but in this case, I like the fights in their own divisions more.
 
Topuria knocking out Volkanovski and Holloway back to back are in my opinion the greatest back to back victories in MMA history. People may not agree with that but they certainly have to agree it's in the discussion.

Knocking out Volk one of the greatest FWs ever is a hundred times more impressive than a close decision over Belal a guy who just got the belt.

Then knocking out another FW GOAT, who has never been knocked out immediately after that is yet again a 100 times more impressive.

It's not comparable AT ALL.
Correct, it's not comparable because JDM isn't the one moving up, Islam is, and he decapitated Volk a few months before and was the reason Volk had lost 2 of his previous 3 fights.
 
More interested than I was before last night at the thought of it.

Though if he gets past JDM to win belt I think the SHavkat fight is the one people would be more interested in.
 
Whatever (or whoever) can get the belt away from JDM as fast as possible, WW is pretty much in the toilet now anyway. Put him in the cage with someone who will beat him immediately.
 
It's pointless.

There's already great contenders at both LW and WW.

I'd rather JDM just defend against Brady/Shavkat/Garry/Buckley and Islam defend against Topuria/Arman/Paddy.

Was never hyped about this to start.
There are also great contenders at FW. So why should ilia get an immediate TS? Fans are being typically inconsistent, if Poatan were in Islam’s exact situation the entire universe would say in one voice that he deserved to move up. But because it’s Islam you got the usual suspects whining about it lol.
 
There are also great contenders at FW. So why should ilia get an immediate TS? Fans are being typically inconsistent, if Poatan were in Islam’s exact situation the entire universe would say in one voice that he deserved to move up. But because it’s Islam you got the usual suspects whining about it lol.
Illia says allegedly he can't even make the weight anymore.
 
Whatever (or whoever) can get the belt away from JDM as fast as possible, WW is pretty much in the toilet now anyway. Put him in the cage with someone who will beat him immediately.

Why the JDM hate? I get Belal wanting him gone as champ badly but JDM? I Mean why? He's a fun fighter, that was a fun fight. Acting like he's the fighting epitome of aids and shit.
 
Below Shavkat-Mak, Shavkat-Belal, Shavkat-JDM, Ilia-Mak, Charles-Mak 2, Max-Islam, Fiziev-Islam. Above or equal to Leon-JDM, Leon-Shavkat, Usman-Shavkat. 7.5-8/10.
 
I'm excited for it. I don't like what double champ chasing does to divisions but I don't see how people aren't excited for the matchup. Feels like a close fight on paper.
 
Looking forward to it but they better fucking keep it moving.

No offense to JDM, but he got a skip the line pass against one of the weakest champs ever and if I am not mistaken he got a title shot without a top 5 win and certain no murderers row or #1 contender fight


Tradeoff= get the fuck back to work.

Shavkat is owed a title fight THIS YEAR.

So JDM vs Islam. Cool. Book it. Run it. Then on to the next.

Islam better not get any fuckin surgeries or take any vacations either.

This is what they signed up for too so no fucking excuses, I don't want to hear it, get to work, you are gonna be busy, deal with it
 
There are also great contenders at FW. So why should ilia get an immediate TS? Fans are being typically inconsistent, if Poatan were in Islam’s exact situation the entire universe would say in one voice that he deserved to move up. But because it’s Islam you got the usual suspects whining about it lol.

Poatan fought every 4 months.

If everyone else who does the champ champ shit does that too, then cool, no complaints.

You want twice the belts and twice the paydays, do twice the work. Fair is fair.

No complaints about getting what you signed up for.
 
Illia says allegedly he can't even make the weight anymore.
Yeah I don’t buy that one bit lol. It’s obvious he wants to recreate the Conor path. He wants an accelerated career to make him a star beyond mma, the dude has much larger ambitions, and that doesn’t include constantly defending the belt against guys like Evloev and Lopez. The weight cut is a convenient excuses in my opinion.
 
Why the JDM hate? I get Belal wanting him gone as champ badly but JDM? I Mean why? He's a fun fighter, that was a fun fight. Acting like he's the fighting epitome of aids and shit.

Because it's like if Derrick Lewis, or Martin Vetorri, or Jessica Eye won their title fights. It makes the company look bush league. Imagine if they'd brought in someone like Niko Price or Alex Oliveira as a short-notice replacement to fight Tyron Woodley or Usman for the title and they actually won. That's what this is more or less.
 
Neither Ilia nor Islam should get an immediate title fight in their new weight classes, make them earn their title shots in the heavier division first, no more jumping line just because they beat some smaller guys in the smaller divisions. What is the freaking rush, are they both elderly and about to retire, so we must give them this final chance at another belt before they are too old to fight again? It would be much more fun, and much more fair to the fighters already in the heavier divisions, if the smaller guys worked their way up a bit to see if they really deserve a Title shot there. i know, I know Conor, Volk etc skipped line and that worked out great right? I say let Ilia fight guys like Paddy, Gamrot & Hooker, before a shot at the belt, and Islam can fight the Buckley, Garry & Brady level guys before a shot at the belt.
 
Because it's like if Derrick Lewis, or Martin Vetorri, or Jessica Eye won their title fights. It makes the company look bush league. Imagine if they'd brought in someone like Niko Price or Alex Oliveira as a short-notice replacement to fight Tyron Woodley or Usman for the title and they actually won. That's what this is more or less.

WTF is bush league about it? Dudes ranked number 5 in the div and with one more win would have gotten a title shot. out here acting like UFC brought in some bum from the regionals on a 4 fight losing streak to fight for the title instead of one of the best guys in the world.
 
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