So Was Jones On Roids The Whole Time??

[Project 86]

first we have UFC 182 T/E Ratio
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/2...s-suspicious-daniel-cormier-drug-test-ufc-182

three of Jones' pre UFC 182 drug tests have been alarmingly low. The normal T/E ratio for an average African-American male is 1.3:1, says Conte. Jones' samples showed ratios of 0.29:1, 0.35:1 and 0.19:1. Same goes for his overall testosterone levels. The three samples contained 1.8 ng/mL, 0.59 ng/mL and 4.9 ng/mL, the average level is 61.3 ng/ML.
a T/E ratio deviation greater than 30 percent a "red flag", Jones' ratio deviated around 80 percent.

DC is 8 years older than Jon, competed at an Olympic level and used to cut TONs of weight. He once cut so much weight that he went in to kidney failure. Jon is younger, very athletic, in his physical prime and has not cut excessive amounts of weight. So why was his level so much lower than Cormier’s?

then we have the whole Jon Jones hiding under the cage to avoid a random drug test
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/1...-hid-under-cage-drug-test-malki-kawa-mma-news

there is also the added muscle

now PED failure with Estrogen blockers which are used after a steroid cycle

was he roiding up his entire career??

 

[therearnaked]

He got caught, obviously he was doing something he shouldn't have been doing.

 

[PopeUrbanII]

yes ofc they all are on things its just unprofessional to get caught just like Brock said. If you are a pro you can hide it.

 

[Buff]

Jon Jones pisses rainbows these days... Dude probably rattles if you shake him...

 

[Hans Gercmiov]

Just look at his legs.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

Everybody is on it you goofs.

 

[MiroHa]

My guess is he got on PEDs somewhere after his fight with Gustafsson.

 

[Clippy]

Nobody can know for sure but just knowing what he's like as a person why wouldn't you think he always cheated?

 

[taurus]

I'm all on that Jones hatewagon, but he got caught now. Don't go doubting everything. Sure, some aspects (like the mentioned low T/E) were suspicious, but he was never officially caught.

It's the same thing with Anderson. His legacy is not tarnished because of one time getting caught. Vitor and Barnett would've been more appropriate...

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Those photos
Kinda tells a story don't it

 

[Blackened]

I'd be willing to bet he was using PED's the whole time, yeah. Obviously something was aloof with his career. With 3 to 4 years of training at 23 years old, you don't just absolutely murder a UFC LHW champion. I mean, it's entirely possible, but his entire run (especially early on) defied common sense. Also, his behavior was suspicious.

I mean, shit, I'm 5'9, 160 lbs. I've trained off and on for a decade. And if you were to train me for 3 more years full time, I seriously doubt I'd be able to pull a win against mighty mouse despite physical advantages. That was akin to what happened with Jones, except Jones absolutely murdered the champion.

No doubt Jones was incredibly talented, but what he was doing was superhuman. In light of the evidence, looks like it was a bit of a science experiment.

 

[Killme]

Anyone caught post usada can be assumed to be cheating pre usada in my book.

 

[cOugAr_LIbRe_85]

I'm all on that Jones hatewagon, but he got caught now. Don't go doubting everything. Sure, some aspects (like the mentioned low T/E) were suspicious, but he was never officially caught.

It's the same thing with Anderson. His legacy is not tarnished because of one time getting caught. Vitor and Barnett would've been more appropriate...

Completely agree. But talking sense in this thread won't work.

 

[fenway926]

I can do all this through him who gives me strength

Philippians 4:13

 

[Codpiece]

There's no way to know. Did he start in 2008? In 2015? Who knows.

All we can be sure of is that his results were suspicious as anything for 182 and he was caught now. I want to speculate but it would be a baeless accusation.

 

[Andy Anderson]

Everyone's on roid. Jone's hated cos he's a hypocrite

 

[Zefram Cochrane]

Hard to say for how long with certainty. Given his older tests he was on it when he fought Cormier. As for the before, it's anybody's guess. A visual test could be attempted to observe the development of his gyno, but it's a lot of work and I couldn't bother less. Also, the discussion would just turn into a flame fest.

 

[green giant]

Well he lies and is good at it. I don't think he would have a problem doing enhancers and not thinking he did anything wrong. We can't say for sure he was doing roids his whole career but I would be willing to bet he has been doing them for a while. This was probably not his first time. I think his team is in on it too, they got BJ going on it also.

 

[Big L]

 

[yeguiza]

100% of fighters are on roids

why people keep asking this BS?

what is the age average here on SD?