So Olympic level Wrestling is the new K1 level Striking ?

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  1. frandie2b

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  2. Redhawks100

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    Holy shit, what a dumb thread.

    Cormier is still an exceptional wrestler. But it didn't help that he was at a 12 inch reach disadvantage.
     
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    There's no cage in wrestling
     
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    top pic: a wrestler taking down a gassed out wrestler

    bottom pic: a BJJ guy KTFOing the K1 grand champion!!!11

    something isn't adding up....
     
  5. frandie2b

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    Yeah, Overeem is still an exceptional Kickboxer too. When did I say Cormier was a shitty wrestler ?

    If you use your brain you could see that my point is that MMA striking and MMA wrestling are different than pure wrestling and pure KB.
     
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    There is no telling how far Jones would have gone had he stuck with wrestling. When he stopped at 20, he was a JUCO national champ, just like DC at 20.

    It's not like DC has shown bad wrestling in MMA...it's been great. And the first takedown Jones got was off a kick he caught. The others were after DC was exhausted.
     
  7. Redhawks100

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    A 5 year old could figure that out.

    Overeem very rarely had glimpses of good kickboxing in MMA, while Cormier had dozens of examples of great MMA wrestling.

    Just stop and admit this thread was a waste of your time.
     
  8. Bearknuckle

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    Theres no cage in K1.
     
  9. HOLA

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    literally everyone knows that.
     
  10. Bearknuckle

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    2 equally tired men, 1 is an olympian being taken down by a junior college wrestler.

    1 tired gassed k1 champ with a bad chin dominated for 2 rounds then gets tired and KO'd.

    Adding up
     
  11. frandie2b

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    Lol you guys have hard times with sarcasm.

    10.000 posts since May 2013 and talks about wasting time lol.
     
  12. FlyingKimurabar

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    It's always been. Wrestling was the first aspect of MMA that we realized didn't transfer to MMA equally. Now we realize it's everything. Wrestling, BJJ, striking, Sambo, you name it. Completely different ball game when you combine it with everything else in MMA.

    Look at Romero. Way better olympic wrestler than Jones, and he got thoroughly outwrestled by Derek Brunson.

    inb4 " he wasn't trying, didn't train it. "
     
  13. ImPitPatPuncher

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    It just shows that credentials don't decide the outcome of a fight.

    All the stats are in the end just stats and nothing on paper always translates directly to the fight.
     
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    overeem won the first 2 rounds
     
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    it's generally better to be short and compact in wrestling
     
  17. ShingenTakezo

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    "Gassed out K1 Champion" fixed it for you
     
  18. MilesAbove

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    Put Jon Jones in the Olympic trials. Let's see how he does.
    Put Bigfoot Silva in K-1. Let's check it out.
     
  19. Iron Scrote

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    Olympic and collegiate wrestling credentials mean absolutely nothing in MMA.

    Ok absolutely nothing is a gross exaggeration but still. Really doesn't mean a lot. Wrestling is dry humping, MMA is fighting. Just like being a BJJ blackbelt doesn't mean you'll be even halfway decent in MMA. Grappling is grappling, it is its own thing. Holds no weight in a multifaceted fight.

    GSP never wrestled a day in his life before he trained for MMA, and he's one of the best MMA wrestlers of all time. Perhaps the very best.You don't need collegiate or olympic wrestling experience to have good MMA wrestling, that's a fact.
     
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    Henry Cejudo will show you what's up
     

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