Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by sporterdiesel, Jan 6, 2013.
Anything different from this last fight?
well you should know what im thinking (avatar, username)
Well, what JDS said he would have done different is not to worry so much about the takedown, and when taken down, to use his BJJ instead of trying to get up.
So I predict and easier third fight for Cain.
I'll tell you how it plays out.
One of them takes a vicious punch at some point in the 1st round. That person loses, whether by a long suffering decision, or a follow up TKO.
If it goes to a long decision, idiots will post on Sherdog how it's so much more impressive to dominate for 5 rounds (while ignoring the fact that the 1st round sledgehammer makes the domination possible).
If it ends early, Sherdoggers will argue over the virtue of a lucky punch not being conclusive because the fight didn't develop.
Ye but hes not mexican youre rooting for an American, If he had grown up in mexico he wouldnt be in the UFC now. Unless he snuck over here illegally like his dad.
I see JDS having success clipping Cain as Cain comes in (as Kongo did) but proceeding to get ridden out. JDS possibly rolls to his guard and tries some BJJ which Cain mercilessly passes. JDS proceeds to wobble Cain at least once while on the feet at the start of the first two or three rounds, but Cain always pressures to complete the takedown. Of course this is hard to say for sure and all though. I think Cain's style makes it really hard for his opponents to actually gameplan themselves. They have to devote the training camp to not getting owned by Cain, as opposed to devote the training camp to owning him. If Cain doesn't land a big shot early on I do think the complexion changes, but at the very least I can see him winning any round except maybe the first, in a rematch. Furthermore I'd expect a TKO by someone.
hehe i dont give a fuck, he is proud of his roots, and for that I admire him most, so Cain Velasquez by TKO in a third fight.
im not brazilian and im a Shogun and Wanderlei fan too, Chuck liddel is from USA and he has all my respect too, so STFU and dont be a racist
Well, since its not expected immediately, a lot can happen from not until then and effect any outcome.
jds via gnp/tko in the first
Velasquez was landing on JDS before the big right, and by that time, JDS had already slowed down considerably because of Velasquez pace. So, I think that regardless of that big right Velasquez was already looking as the winner.
While I do agree, I think without the big right, Junior would've had more capacity in rounds 1 and 2 to land the big shot, especially since Cain's standup defense does still have some holes in it. Cain's gameplan was perfect though and his persistence was awesome, I figured JDS would just walk away or sprawl most of the takedowns early on but I didn't expect Cain to shoot for so many that JDS got tired and was no longer able to defend.
I agree, without the big right Cain would've still won, but I think it certainly helped his case as Junior looked to be in no condition to throw the overhand or uppercut that he so often has success with
Whoever gets the first punch in wins imo. JDS was defending well against Cain's tds until he got rocked and he was just never there for the next 20 minutes. Junior is a champ and he has great group of fighters who could help him too
I think JDS will take the rematch.
Cain had NOTHING to offer JDS last time and will NOT make it to the 2nd round...bet the house on it! When is the next fight?
JDS via knockout on the second round... he will frustrate Cain attempts to the takedowns, as he was doing on the beggining of their last fight, and then on the second round he will land a big right hand, better than we saw on the first fight... just write this...
I think it plays out like this:
Fedor comes out of retirment, leaves M1 and joins UFC. Dominates Cain, then Brock comes out of retirment and crushes JDS setting up Fedor vs Brock. Reem dies from japanese game show accident with Sapp
Cain smashes JDS again and worst
Like someone before had said you saw a healthy Cain
I don't see JDS taking the rematch
Both are great and both proved something in both fights
1st off cain haters is Dont UNDERESTIMATE BROWN PRIDE VELASQUEZ
2ND JDS CAN TAKE SOME GOOD SHOTS
3RD BOTH ARE THE BEST HWS MUCH RESPECT TO BOTH
And both got heavy hands
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