Smaller Cage/Ring promotes more exciting fights

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  1. Steven_Universe

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    WEC has a smaller cage and promoted some exciting bangers of fights.

    If two guys fought in a space slightly bigger phone booth it would be exciting as Fuck.

    A bigger ring allows more acrobatics and running and a lot of strategy.

    A smaller space would be intense explosive fighting.
     
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    Smaller cage huge advantage to the grappler.
     
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    Dog collar matches are the future..
     
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    WEC was largely for smaller fighters. I enjoy watching big guys with footwork and technique, be it Gus or Overeem. They're forced to brawl more in smaller cages. Yet the outside style is as important as inside in martial arts. So the cage size should be the same within the same organization. Or by weight class. If not, the cage gets in the way of skill display.
     
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    Wrestlers would dominate even more so
     
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    Small and electrified cages promote even more exciting fights.
     
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    UFC fighters arent man enough for X-arm. The world wasn't ready.
     
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    acrobatics? when the fuck has there ever been an acrobat in the UFC?
     
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    They could literally... fight in a phonebooth... :eek:
     
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    Not like there has been finishes in giant cages.
     
  13. TStoner

    TStoner Oatmeal cream stout

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    The UFC uses two different size cages. It’s statiatically proven that the smaller cage leads to more finishes... dunno why they’d ever use the bigger one, but it seems to make more sense, logistically, in the larger venues
     
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    Close-Quarter Combat Rules!

    Ladies & Gentlemen, now entering the Phone Booth...
     
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    I love the stats you've provided to prove your point, well done.
    There's no way anyone can argue with you as the stats clear it up.
     
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    Only people with no training experience would suggest some dumb shit like this.

    MMA is about skill, technique, precision and strategy.

    If you want to see people hugging eachother in close quarters go watch some porn.
     
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    Sorry. Thought a turd like you who’s been around since ‘06 would’ve seen all the posts flying around a few years ago when this article was making the boards. My bad.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bl...size-finishes-knockouts-submissions-decisions

    Googles your friend, my dude
     
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    really depends how you look at the data

    has very little effect on ko's

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    its negligible in all divisions except middleweight, but lightheavy loses out

    increased submission rates, but its also very deceptive

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    the data is VERY skewed by the fact that for years WEC was all the lighter classes and had the smaller cage, so theres been much much fewer fights in teh lighter classes in the larger case so its still even in 2015 a pretty small sample size.

    It also doesnt include strikeforce, so that sways the overall data very much towards lighter weight classes, and means that the heavier weight classes again, are a pretty small sample size.




    Much of the "finishes" data is submissions and at the lighter weight classes, so it is using WEC data, a company that is now pretty old. The higher submission rate could be because of cage size, but equally, it could just be because the sport was less developed then, fighters werent as good or well rounded so submission rates were higher (this in borne out in womens 115lb having the highest submission rate of any division in teh ufc - less experienced athletes, more vulnerable to subs)

    So teh overall data is badly borked because the large part of the "small cage" data is coming from 10 years ago in WEC
     
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    Fighting in tiny amateur cages blows I’ll say that much. I could take no more than two steps back from my opponent before running into the cage.
     
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    There's been lots
     

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