Slack: The only way she (Ronda) gets into clinch is running forward and eating blows

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"Even if she carried her same brilliance into a clinch with stronger individuals—she only has one way of getting there, running straight forwards and eating blows."

Interesting piece here. This is a perfect balance, give Ronda her due for being ahead of the game, but keep it realistic and keep her out of the man vs woman discussions.
One of the angles that the internet has come to love is the “that's what you get for talking shit” narrative. Gifs and videos of Bethe Correia shouting in Rousey's face at the weigh ins and then face planting along the fence flooded Reddit and the masses reveled in it. As if getting laid out in thirty seconds by a vastly superior fighter wouldn't have happened if Correia hadn't produced the drama. It's perfect, it appeals to the bullied child in all of us.

Of course, Bethe Correia had no business being in there fighting for a UFC title to begin with. She's done nothing of note in a division which is far from stacked with talent anyway. But in beating two of Rousey's friends and manufacturing drama, Correia created a narrative and a reason for Rousey to fight her. This was aided by taking place at a time when the UFC has basically admitted desperation and announced that Miesha Tate gets a third crack at Rousey despite never looking like she had anything for the champion in the previous two meetings. Really we should be applauding Bethe Correia for getting the world interested in a fight which was absolutely awful on paper, and was preceded by three hours of largely uninteresting match ups.

Now, I don't mind this talk of Rousey being the greatest pound-for-pound talent in MMA because pound-for-pound is a tool used to sell fights to the gullible anyway. It's the assertions that she could beat many male mixed martial artists which hurt my brain. The folks who believe this always fall back on the same airy, nebulous notions of technique overcoming strength and size. Of course, they never actually reference what 'technique' they're talking about.

The truth is that not only is there the usual strength and athleticism divide between the male and female divisions of the sport—the technical proficiency in women's MMA is, for now, considerably lower. Put Rousey in with a top 25 fighter in any male division and she'd get lit up. Even if she carried her same brilliance into a clinch with stronger individuals—she only has one way of getting there, running straight forwards and eating blows. As we discussed at length in Killing the Queen, Rousey is not a methodical, pressuring ring cutter like Chris Weidman or Cain Velasquez, and she doesn't have to be because the women she fights will trade right hands ineffectually as soon as she gets close, thereby giving her the clinch.

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/wushu-watch-ronda-rousey-versus-men
 
That's a good point -

Most fans of other sports (GOLF included) aren't making dumb "what-if" scenarios comparing men and women. Rousey's appeal to a wide, non-hardcore audience is probably partly to blame for why those comparisons pop-up; some idiot will see her fight for the first time, having little prior MMA knowledge, and think she could beat the men. (How does that make you feel, boys??)
 
She hits hard. Nobody´s gonna circle around and simply pick her a part without being tagged or grabbed. You´re dreaming. The female who could possibly do that hasn´t started training MMA yet, and probably doesn´t even exist.

Bwahahahahaha....

KrowX, get in here and defend this shit.
 
This krowx os terrible
 
What about the REVOLUTIONARY aspect of Ronda Rousey? If Canner McMario has one, I'm sure Jack Slack can pull one out of his ass for Ronda.
 
That division is full of low talent. They're not on Ronda's level

as far as the Judo comment, you act as if Judo has never been attempted in mens mma and there's absolutely no counter for it. No-gi judo is almost identical to Greco-Roman wrestling. In mma you can learn to counter any skills but you have to have skills yourself! The women in her division simply DON'T HAVE THE SKILLS.

Idiot.
 
She hits hard. Nobody´s gonna circle around and simply pick her a part without being tagged or grabbed. You´re dreaming. The female who could possibly do that hasn´t started training MMA yet, and probably doesn´t even exist.

Time to start eating some of yourself
 
Perfectly stated to appease even Rousey's online beta orbiters. Unless they've taken complete leave of their senses.
 
This bullshit again. He fought the strongest wrestler he'll ever face and still finished him in two rounds. Didn't give a flying fuck about being taken down, he was throwing kicks with reckless abandon and fighting his own fight.

The only thing that got exposed were the retard Conor haters who swore up and down Mendes was going to lnp him to a UD.

Mendes had two weeks to get ready. The Irishman had 6 months. It makes a difference.
 
I don't understand how people who have never actually implemented any of the techniques they claim to be an expert on in actual competition have any credibility.
 
I agree with him completely. One of the few people who hasn't bought the UFC hype.
 
she has showed it multiple times...runs in there no disregard..
 
Holm is going to shock the word when she rocks Ronda coming in and finishes her.

Holm hasn't been impressive in a lot of people's eyes because she's getting to fight at her pace. It's similar to Machida and how everyone called him boring. If you let him play karate, he's just going to point fight you all day. If you force the action, you get KO'ed.

If Ronda tries her bumrush or aggressive approach, she's getting stopped.

Bandwagon is full folks.
 
That's a good point -

Most fans of other sports (GOLF included) aren't making dumb "what-if" scenarios comparing men and women. Rousey's appeal to a wide, non-hardcore audience is probably partly to blame for why those comparisons pop-up; some idiot will see her fight for the first time, having little prior MMA knowledge, and think she could beat the men. (How does that make you feel, boys??)
Top women golfers occasionally enter the men's PGA tournaments and struggle to make the Top 100.

There are a lot of sports where women are able to safely play against men or be measured objectively against them (golf, tennis, track & field, games like chess, basketball, etc etc) and they sometimes do, and they always are nowhere near the top of the men's results. The 2012 gold medal winning 100m time for women (10.75) wouldn't have qualified for the Top 8 at the men's Olympics 50 years ago (10.5 at men's 1964 Summer Olympics). The Williams sisters couldn't beat the 203rd ranked male player.

Even when you take out physical strength, competitive focus and calculating ability and number of participants still make a huge difference. The top female chess player in the world is ranked #70 in the overall rankings.

Women can't compete with men. Put Ronda in there with a Top 50 male fighter and you're going to get her seriously hurt.
 
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Who is Jack Slack? How many titles has he won? How many world champions has he trained?
 
That's a good point -

Most fans of other sports (GOLF included) aren't making dumb "what-if" scenarios comparing men and women. Rousey's appeal to a wide, non-hardcore audience is probably partly to blame for why those comparisons pop-up; some idiot will see her fight for the first time, having little prior MMA knowledge, and think she could beat the men. (How does that make you feel, boys??)

Rousey fans making these retarded "what-if" scenarios are not fans of this or any sport.
 
Who is Jack Slack? How many titles has he won? How many world champions has he trained?

Well until Mike Winkeljohn, André Pederneiras, Duane Ludwig, or Rafael Cordeiro start posting on here we'll just have to make do with the striking analysts willing to give it up for free like Slack and Ruesbech.

Who cares who he has trained? You're not looking to sign up with him as your trainer in preparation for your run at the WBC World title; you're reading free shit on the internet.
 
Ronda beats Jackoff slackoff in 2 minutes and forces him to wear an apron and make her a turkey pot pie.
 
Been saying this for a while and I get the same response "Ronda is a Newaza specialist"… "You don't understand grappling"… "Ronda does have footwork"… And then when I ask for an example… Crickets.

It doesn't matter how good your grappling is, if you have to walk in a straight line, chin up, winging punches to get into the clinch you will be stopped by male fighters.

When your opponents utilise jabs, teeps, lateral movement, footwork/pivots etc you need to cut angles, piece together boxing fundamentals, level changes and mix up your 'MMA' game to get to your dominant positions.

Ronda is very basic in what she does. There are only 30 WBW ranked fighters in the world however and none of them have technically sound MMA skills.

There are mens fighters ranked outside the top 450 with superior skills to anyone Ronda has fought. Guys only training part-time who have stopped Olympic Level Judoka's. The women's talent level will always be low.

Good. At least there is now one woman in the WBW division with skills that are actually well rounded.
 
Lol! Put her in against Dodson. When he lands one of those shots that sounds like Liddell vs Metzger and looks like Hendricks vs Fitch, the crowd will gasp in horror and stare in disbelief as to how this ever came about.
 
She hits hard. Nobody´s gonna circle around and simply pick her a part without being tagged or grabbed. You´re dreaming. The female who could possibly do that hasn´t started training MMA yet, and probably doesn´t even exist.

Men have used footwork to ruin the game plan of grapplers far superior to Ronda long before she even entered the sport. That line was basically saying: "I don't know shit about MMA".
 
Holm is going to shock the word when she rocks Ronda coming in and finishes her.

Holm hasn't been impressive in a lot of people's eyes because she's getting to fight at her pace. It's similar to Machida and how everyone called him boring. If you let him play karate, he's just going to point fight you all day. If you force the action, you get KO'ed.

If Ronda tries her bumrush or aggressive approach, she's getting stopped.

Man, man, man. I owe you a beer. Or some hot wings if you don't drink.


I love when posts' like this get bumped.
 
I was referring to the hype that the UFC has built around Ronda. Conor may be over-hyped but he still is a good fighter.

Before the mendes fight, much of sherdog was saying how mendes would expose conor

Conor fought against arguably the worst match up for him and still won

Now people are saying edgar is the one to beat him

Conor may have used his mouth to get many opportunities, but he is a top tier fighter. Not sure if he would beat edgar or aldo, but he has shown a great fight iq and talent.

Its funny how blindly sherdog can hate or nuthug fighters
 
Who is Jack Slack? How many titles has he won? How many world champions has he trained?

Is Slack wrong? Well before Rousey lost brutally to Holm, countless Sherdoggers were pointing out that Rousey just charges forward and powers through her opponents strikes to get the clinch and then take the fight to the ground and someone who can move and strike will be able to beat Rousey.

That is why so many people wanted to see Rousey fight Cyborg. I would love to see Rousey trying to charge through Cyborg's punches.
 
Lol! Put her in against Dodson. When he lands one of those shots that sounds like Liddell vs Metzger and looks like Hendricks vs Fitch, the crowd will gasp in horror and stare in disbelief as to how this ever came about.

Not that anyone is calling for anything as ridiculous as Dodson/Derousey, but if that fight did happen it would be worse than just shocking the audience. MMA would most likely be banned from the US if this fight was ever held.
 
No shit, she looked like Babalu/Chuck 2 in most of her fights. She ran at opponents like Frankenstein with her arms out.
 
I don't understand how people who have never actually implemented any of the techniques they claim to be an expert on in actual competition have any credibility.

Bill Belichick is considered the best NFL coach and has never played any main position in collegiate or professional leagues.

It doesn't always matter.
 
Or you can move your head and slip punches right into the clinch which happens in every fight, or make Holly be the aggressor and work into it from there.
 
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