Skill and Power Trumps Size (Andrade vs Chookagian)

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  1. Kyojiro Kagenuma Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    This thread is me gloating a bit, because exactly what I said would happen, happened.

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    Honestly, I'm very surprised so many people picked against Andrade for this fight, based solely on Katlyn's size advantage. I thought it was apparently obvious Jessica was leaps and bounds better than Katlyn. I thought she should have been a much bigger favorite, and Saturday night she proved me right. Katlyn had nothing for Jessica. Despite being 8 inches taller, Jessica was still able to pick her and slam her to the mat with ease, and Katlyn just could not withstand her power.

    Katlyn thought she could keep the much smaller Jessica at bay with her reach, but she was just overwhelmed by the relentless savage that is Jessica Andrade, as I knew she would be.

    Finally, 125 has an actual decent contender. Someone significant for Valentina to fight! That said, Valentina should be a very clear favorite for their matchup. I'd say she should be at least -250.
     
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  2. Marko Polo wiggle wiggle Platinum Member

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    Val is on another level. People aren’t gonna like it but she’s one of the only true wmma fighters out there along with Nunes. All the rest just look like they have barely any skill
     
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  3. Get To Da Choppa Purple Belt

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    Jessica Andrade is like a tank. She kinda reminds me of a female prime John Dodson. How many WMMA fighters have this type of one punch ko power?

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    Not even a WMMA fan but Schevchenko's gonna take Andrade to school in every aspect of MMA
     
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    Valentina leaves on a stretcher missing several teeth
     
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  6. Kyojiro Kagenuma Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    Amanda, Cyborg. That's pretty much it.
     
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  7. Kyojiro Kagenuma Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    Jessica isn't on Val's level but she's still pretty good.
     
  8. Marko Polo wiggle wiggle Platinum Member

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    She ain’t bad but she brute forces a lot of what she does. I guess it’s up to her opponent to be better than that and it’s working so far so why change
     
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    Andrade should get an immediate title shot. Outside of Calvillo which I'd wager Andrade can win against, the rest of the top 10 is just sub-par and pretty much dead in the water.
     
  10. Kyojiro Kagenuma Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    Jessica saw that she hurt Katlyn and went straight to hit her again in that same spot. That's not just brute force. She's smarter than you give her credit for.
     
  11. Kyojiro Kagenuma Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    If Amanda can't knock out Val, then jessica sure as hell can't.
     
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    @Kyojiro Kagenuma Kind of clear here that sometimes, size isn't the be-all-end-all when it comes to how the result of a fight is going to turn out. See Cain vs Lesnar/Bigfoot fights as an example.

    Andrade should probably get a title shot after that KO/TKO btw. Not that the odds are stacked against her since Valentina clearly has a skill and even a speed advantage...

    And we all know what happens when one side has a speed+skill advantage. See Izzy vs Costa for example.
     
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    at 125 Jessica looked pretty good, remember he was a 135 fighter so the weight cut isnt that bad like in 115, she should be a more than decent contender, she has strenght, KO power, tkd capacity, though Valentina is far more technical and a has a better gas tank
     
  14. Kyojiro Kagenuma Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    Jessica's gas tank is fantastic. Have you ever seen her slow down?
     
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    remember its a 5R fight, when she fought Joanna and Rose 2 she slowed down, getting slopping in some ocassions
     
  16. is a Click the image but nothing really happens.

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    Is it better than Valentina's though?

    Can you argue that her grit/willpower is better than Valentina's?

    Maybe if the answer is yes to both of those questions there's a higher chance that she could win the Flyweight title (more than what the majority of here thinks).

    See the Penn vs Edgar fight for example.
     
  17. Kyojiro Kagenuma Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    I don't think Jessica wins, but I'm just trying to give her the credit she deserves.
     
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    Betting doesn't represent what people actually think, yea she should have a the bigger favourite but people probably also liked Chookagain's odds vs the chances of a possible upset.
     
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    she reminds me more of John Lineker than John Dodson.
     
  20. Kyojiro Kagenuma Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    no, I saw plenty of people picking Katlyn.
     

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