sit up sweep when mounted

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  1. almann1979

    almann1979 Orange Belt

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    Last night while rolling I was getting smashed (again), and I ended up mounted.

    After a minute or so of failed escapes I got desperate, and just sat up and performed a movement similar to the sit up/hip bump sweep from guard.

    Anyway, it worked and he went over, with me in his guard.

    I have put this down to a lack of concentration from my opponent, but before I dismiss this completely as a bit of luck, is there any validity to this type of mount escape? Is it something that can be made to work more regularly with the right set ups etc?
     
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    Surely you would be exposing yourself to the arm bar if your doing it how I imagine its done.

    Regardless I dont think you would catch anyone good with it.
     
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    Einarr Banned Banned

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    That's because your partner's Mount control sucks.
     
  4. almann1979

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    Yeah.

    I thought that :-(
     
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    You wouldn't catch anyone bad with it either.
     
  6. cms9690

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    There is a legit sweep that is similar to what you described.

    If you position your leg to block the outside of his, then control the same side arm from posting - THEN bump your hips to that side, you will sweep him over and land in his guard.

    Granted, it's just a basic white belt sweep - it's effective if they're fighting for a collar grip then you lock their arm to your chest, block the leg and explode them over.
     
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    Einarr Banned Banned

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    You're talking about the Upa escape? OP is just sitting up, haha - completely different thing.
     
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    Upa, yeah! The name escaped me.

    When I first read it, it sounded like he kind of did a really bad upa that somehow worked - but nevermind, haha.
     
  9. almann1979

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    I think this is what happened tbh. Guess I really did just get lucky :)
     
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    Saulo Ribeiro did something similiar on his instructional
     
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    SuperSuperRambo Senior Moderator Senior Moderator

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    This. Also if you did the same motion for the sweep, you're wide open for a triangle. See Lauzon vs Varner in the UFC for a similar application. If you're reaching across the body to do it, then you're giving up your back.
     
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    I'm sorry to be 'that guy' but reversals from dominant positions are not called sweeps, just reversals or escapes
     
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    I wonder besides your partner's mount sucking, what the size differential between you is? Because there is no way I see this working on anybody that much bigger.
     
  15. almann1979

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    Thanks everybody for the replies.

    I am a couple of inches taller, but he is much thicker set and stronger. I think he weighs a couple of Kg more
     
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    depends on what kind of mount he has you in....
     
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    sha Geekjitsu Black Belt

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    I think in an MMA context, trying a last ditch escape that might or might not get you submitted is still better than getting gnp'd, or having your back taken.
     
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    legit escape. I think Hendo does it in mma.
     
  20. SuperSuperRambo

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    Depends. In MMA I might rather give up my back, since the gloves make it harder to choke and you can't strike the back of the head.
     

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