From 60 minutes.. "Brill takes a comprehensive look at what what the new law does and doesn't do. Brill argues that obamacare is the product of what he calls an orgy of lobbying and backroom deals in which just about everyone with a stake in the 3 trillion dollar health industry came out ahead, except the tax payers." http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/topics/60-minutes/ Listen to the family in the video said, they had to go out of network and pay 48 thousand dollars out of pocket before they even received services. Now they blame that on a bad policy and say, they are now covered with a good obamacare plan 100% subsidized by tax payers. The fact of the matter is if you're paying for insurance and you seek this type treatment in an out of network provider you have just about the same exposure. This is a call out thread to all of you talking shit when I gave my personal experience with health-care this year. There are no cost controls in the law, gruber himself admitted as much. This scam has tentacles that can grab you from anywhere. I mentioned before my family's premiums are 24k per year, for the very best policy available, MD Anderson is not in my network, so if I went there to be treated I would be responsible for the 24k in premiums plus 15k out of network deductible plus medicine and who knows what else. Thats over 40k out of pocket for the very best plan available and then add another 15k, pushing it to 55 thousand dollars if two people in my family had serious health issues. For a bronze plan (the bottom one) it's 15k for my family with a $6,000.00 per person or a $12,000.00 per family deductible (in network, it jumps way up out of network) I would have to pay 100% of everything until the deductibles are met. That means at minimum, I pay $21,000.00 fucking dollars every year before I see a single penny out of this so called insurance. You all laugh now because you get subsidized but look at the first article I posted this will eventually crash on you to.