Since 1989, the top 1% have gained 21 trillion in wealth, the bottom 50% LOST 900 billion

[JoshTehV]

@AgonyandIrony I've yet to meet anyone or hear about anyone from a communist or socialist country that was ecstatic about it besides demagogues like Karl Marx but hey if you want to continue paying into a system that thinks I deserve 4x what I make a month in unemployment and taxed a fraction of the rate my normal income would be then I agree with everything you said. I love doing the bare minimum, which is certifying my benefits and getting paid. You can do all the hard work I'll set back and do the least amount of work. There's a reason why Anarchy worked before Communism because it has less logical pitfalls and inherent fallacies then communism does.

According to a book published at Harvard University, Communism is directly responsible for killing around a 100 million people in the last century whether or not you choose to agree with the facts of history or not @Corn Pop Hombre. All of you guys literally cherrypick your sources and use everything that is literally biased as fucked against anything besides your views. I can't believe we literally have a communist cell forming here on Sherdog.

https://sites.fas.harvard.edu/~hpcws/asreview.htm
https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-million-dead-1510011810

 

[JoshTehV]

Ah... On of those people lmao. The men who the rich had executed after the Haymarket Riot, the murdered IWW protesters in Seattle by the police, the Rednecks who picked up rifles against the police and their oppressors at Blair Mountain, their deaths did more for my freedom than some high school grad getting killed in Fallujah.

What a delightful insightful mind you have, pray tell me. What doctrines have you came up with on your own? That weren't impacted by the musings of others? Such brilliant mind we have here someone who can't even in good faith bring up a counterpoint to a sentence lmao.

You should probably watch that video and educate yourself about socialism and Marxism as well as his scathing critique of the USSR otherwise don't @ me.

Bitch all you and your people do is cite Marxist bullshit that has worked in the real world for a plethora of reasons, why you can see democracy and capitalism make the world go around. You guys are like the types that think aikido and other shit are viable in the real world.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Bitch all you and your people do is cite Marxist bullshit that has worked in the real world for a plethora of reasons, why you can see democracy and capitalism make the world go around. You guys are like the types that think aikido and other shit are viable in the real world.

I literally quoted labor movements that changed the US for the better spearheaded by socialists and communists. I'm not a Marxist by any means, (libsocialism is best socialism)

The New Deal was also incredible for the US and something we need to go back to, Trump himself campaigned about a massive infastructure overhaul. But if we want to look at socialist and Marxist elements in modern history we can look towards Western Europe. What do you call public education? What do you call a public firefighting force?

You still have dodged my initial question with all the grace of a drunk seeing his ex at a party. Concerning the means of production belonging to the worker, what is your issue with that statement?

 

[JoshTehV]

Ah... On of those people lmao. The men who the rich had executed after the Haymarket Riot, the murdered IWW protesters in Seattle by the police, the Rednecks who picked up rifles against the police and their oppressors at Blair Mountain, their deaths did more for my freedom than some high school grad getting killed in Fallujah.

What a delightful insightful mind you have, pray tell me. What doctrines have you came up with on your own? That weren't impacted by the musings of others? Such brilliant mind we have here someone who can't even in good faith bring up a counterpoint to a sentence lmao.

You should probably watch that video and educate yourself about socialism and Marxism as well as his scathing critique of the USSR otherwise don't @ me.

I know people who lived through that shit, and are still facing the repercussions of that shit. At least half of my coworker's bloodline was removed from the face of the earth in the name of communism, so you fuck off. You didn't even watch that music video of Brother Ali , maybe that will give you an idea of where I align but fuck anything that isn't the communist manifesto is bullshit to yall. You're on an internet MMA forum I'll @AgonyandIrony whenever I feel like it because we don't like in communist regime. If you hate US politics so much then why don't you GTFO, go live in Russia where people think its normal or use the sidewalk and an impromptu highway.

 

[JoshTehV]

The thing I don't get is that Communist ideologies don't even align with martial arts, the idea we all will get a black belt just for showing up is innately illogical and if you can't even apply it properly in that aspect how the fuck do you think it's going to work when it comes to a national economy?

 

[JoshTehV]

I literally quoted labor movements that changed the US for the better spearheaded by socialists and communists. I'm not a Marxist by any means, (libsocialism is best socialism)

The New Deal was also incredible for the US and something we need to go back to, Trump himself campaigned about a massive infastructure overhaul. But if we want to look at socialist and Marxist elements in modern history we can look towards Western Europe. What do you call public education? What do you call a public firefighting force?

You still have dodged my initial question with all the grace of a drunk seeing his ex at a party. Concerning the means of production belonging to the worker, what is your issue with that statement?

You have never been to a California DMV or post office, have you? You ever sit in line to get a passport? and you want these people to run our entire infrastructure and oversee it? My buddy who works at the VA hospital by Stanford University, and is in charge of throwing away stuff they don't need and they actually told him to not report anything because they don't frown upon wasting resources. Basically they waste about half the funding they get according to my buddy, whose in a manager type position where he oversees a bunch of lackeys.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I know people who lived through that shit, and are still facing the repercussions of that shit. At least half of my coworker's bloodline was removed from the face of the earth in the name of communism, so you fuck off. You didn't even watch that music video of Brother Ali , maybe that will give you an idea of where I align but fuck anything that isn't the communist manifesto is bullshit to yall. You're on an internet MMA forum I'll @AgonyandIrony whenever I feel like it because we don't like in communist regime. If you hate US politics so much then why don't you GTFO, go live in Russia where people think its normal or use the sidewalk and an impromptu highway.

Lmao. Calm down there Skeeter.

I literally posted a video tearing down the USSR. Hell there's even a quote in that video "there was more actual socialism in Germany than the USSR"

Well it's nice to know that when those brave communists were marching to their death to give you the rights you enjoy today, you would have been accepting your five dollars and a baton from the local police department.

Are you against public schools now? Public roads? The police? EMTs? Are you against National Parks? Are you against the New Deal? Are those things considered a net benefit for society? Thank socialism you ingrate.

 

[JoshTehV]

Lmao. Calm down there Skeeter.

I literally posted a video tearing down the USSR. Hell there's even a quote in that video "there was more actual socialism in Germany than the USSR"

Well it's nice to know that when those brave communists were marching to their death to give you the rights you enjoy today, you would have been accepting your five dollars and a baton from the local police department.

Are you against public schools now? Public roads? The police? EMTs? Are you against National Parks? Are you against the New Deal? Are those things considered a net benefit for society? Thank socialism you ingrate.

If you even perused the thread you'd see I vote for every single tax increase, and that specific emt law was bullshit. My buddy literally brings a Nintendo switch and a sleeper bag with him to work because of how much downtime they have. I'm not even a right-winger, I'm moderate and far-right and far lefties are all the same, subjective. You literally just came on here to shit on anyway with an opposing opinion, I get Food Stamps, Medical, FASFA, CAl Grants, BOG waiver fee, and make 4x what I made a month on EDD. Like I said earlier I don't mind all the social safety nets put in place, just that most of it is wasteful. On edd in about a month's time with the stimulus check, I made like 4.5-5k unemployed. So, I think I have a better idea of what our social system looks like in America than you.

 

[JoshTehV]

Was this meant to refute what I said? Cause uh...

https://www.mankwegametrackers.co.za/things-you-may-not-know-about-lions/

Have you ever watched a documentary on wolfpacks because that's how wolfpacks work, literally?

 

[AgonyandIrony]

If you even perused the thread you'd see I vote for every single tax increase, and that specific emt law was bullshit. My buddy literally brings a Nintendo switch and a sleeper bag with him to work because of how much downtime they have. I'm not even a right-winger, I'm moderate and far-right and far lefties are all the same, subjective. You literally just came on here to shit on anyway with an opposing opinion, I get Food Stamps, Medical, and make 4x what I made a month on EDD. Like I said earlier I don't mind all the social safety nets put in place, just that most of it is wasteful. On edd in about a month's time with the stimulus check, I made like 4.5-5k unemployed.

I literally just asked you a question about your issue with the means of production quote itself lmao.

You could have talked about any form of capitalism, brought up Japan and Collective Capitalism, but went straight for the "if you don't like it you can geeeet out" very unbecoming of you.

So you also just agreed with me that you do enjoy some of the fruits of socialism. I, a man who is going to be dropping LSD and wandering around Skyrim in VR shortly, can also express to enjoy the fruits of Capitalism as well. No actual leftist or Socialist believes in an all or nothing mentality, and if they do they're totalitarian and that just don't sit right with me bucko. A major criticism of capitalism in itself is that it is essentially totalitarian in nature. Thus the question about your issue with the means of production quote.

 

[BarryDillon]

@JoshTehV is a troll. Don't bother.

 

[JoshTehV]

@JoshTehV is a troll. Don't bother.

I literally just asked you a question about your issue with the means of production quote itself lmao.

You could have talked about any form of capitalism, brought up Japan and Collective Capitalism, but went straight for the "if you don't like it you can geeeet out" very unbecoming of you.

So you also just agreed with me that you do enjoy some of the fruits of socialism. I, a man who is going to be dropping LSD and wandering around Skyrim in VR shortly, can also express to enjoy the fruits of Capitalism as well. No actual leftist or Socialist believes in an all or nothing mentality, and if they do they're totalitarian and that just don't sit right with me bucko. A major criticism of capitalism in itself is that it is essentially totalitarian in nature. Thus the question about your issue with the means of production quote.

Sorry, I'm not a communist and don't support communist ideals but at least we live in a place that allows you to do so. I'd rather not partake in the sickle jerk yall got going on.

 

[Holic]

Have you ever watched a documentary on wolfpacks because that's how wolfpacks work, literally?

Right. That's my point. Supply/demand/scarcity isn't a system, it's life itself.

 

[JoshTehV]

You commies must be behind this 'Like' situation because my production of likes has been siezed

 

[SammyPops]

Bitch all you and your people do is cite Marxist bullshit that has worked in the real world for a plethora of reasons, why you can see democracy and capitalism make the world go around. You guys are like the types that think aikido and other shit are viable in the real world.

lol @ posters who use words like communism and capitalism as if we've ever had a true form of either.

 

[JoshTehV]

lol @ posters who use words like communism and capitalism as if we've ever had a true form of either.