Side choke/Arm triangle question

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by wildcard_seven, Sep 22, 2005.

  1. wildcard_seven

    wildcard_seven Purple Belt

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    I've seen a lot of really good grapplers/fighters, particulary Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro do the palm-to-palm grip side choke with great success. I know there are other variations, but I say screw them...lol, I've seen Vitor, Sperry, and others who always go for this choke and damn near put the guy out before its even fully on.

    I want to learn how to finish this choke really bad. I can get it on bigger opponents (surprisingly) because they are already a tight fit between my arms, but against some medium to smaller opponents I am having problems getting it tight. If somebody knows the proper way to finish this I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks.
     
  2. Dedicado

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    palm on palm is good. I like it. I have also had success with palm on bicep/palm on head. It looks like RNC, but is used for the side choke- hope description makes sense.

    As to finishing: Go to side control. Drive your head/neck down and into them to add preassure, squeeze. Keep it up, most guys feel this but don't tap right away, it doesn't mean they won't tap eventually.
    Whatever you do, do not ease the preassure at all in any way, this gives them more time to survive and makes it harder to submit them.
     
  3. Aesopian

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    I've been finishing them this way, based on the words of Jeff Rockwell (from MMA.tv):

     
  4. Ybot

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    If you can finish palm to palm, that's great, but I find that if they seem to be loose in my grip, then I just slide my and to my bicep like Dedicado said. This seems to always make it nice and tight.
     
  5. wildcard_seven

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    Thanks for that. It seems maybe one of the keys I've been missing is bringing my head all the way down to the mat. I know like the top poster said that you can usually keep the pressure on and wait them out, but I've seen just how devastating Shaolin's choke is-not a slow choke (Shaolin/Takayama, you can see it on subfighter). I will definitely try this out.
     
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    ive heard a couple different things about finishing it, but ive had the most success with sprawling my hips flat on the ground, squeezing really hard, puffing my chest out, driving my shoulder into him, and circling around towards his head.

    im also now an advocate of finishing the brabo choke by pulling back to guard...since we're on the topic of arm triangles.
     
  7. Foolkiller

    Foolkiller You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!

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    You can also put your knee into the side of their ribs and walk around with your outside leg to crank it.

    Also make sure you are looking at their face so their bicep is trapped under your chin otherwise they can try escape their arm. Small tip from Sperry I picked up at the BTT camp.
     
  8. Dave321

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    sorry im a total noob but can someone explain this palm to palm grip or is it self explanatory ;/. The only way i see the choke is when one hand is on a bicep and the other on a head.
     
  9. wildcard_seven

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    awesome
     

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