Shoulder strikes in the clinch are easy power uppercut KOs

The real shot is the headbutt. One of the most powerful techniques a shorter fighter can do in the clinch is headbutt/jump headbutt into the lower jaw of the opponent. It has a huge chance of smashing out teeth and breaking the jaw of the opponent, breaking orbital bones, etc when properly executed.

Sadly headbutts are illegal, just another rule that artificially mitigates the natural superiority and advantage of being shorter in a fight.
 
KOing anyone with a shoulder strike can only be done if you run from the other side of the octagon and tackle your opponent football style - shoulder to head. Shoulder strikes to head from the clinch are like foot stomps - just an annoyance.
Thats why Cowboy had a broken nose and orbital. Yeah, totally like foot stomps.
 
The real shot is the headbutt. One of the most powerful techniques a shorter fighter can do in the clinch is headbutt/jump headbutt into the lower jaw of the opponent. It has a huge chance of smashing out teeth and breaking the jaw of the opponent, breaking orbital bones, etc when properly executed.

Sadly headbutts are illegal, just another rule that artificially mitigates the natural superiority and advantage of being shorter in a fight.
You can do jumping shoulder strikes too, sort of like Conor did
 
They seem so easy to land. And they're so quick to land and throw. And they're so powerful. They seem so obvious. Why has no one ever thrown these with bad intentions before?

Because they dont really work. Cowboy just looking for a way out. Donald 'muay thai' cerrone gets rocked by shoulder strikes in the clinch.
 
Conor was dipping and loading up on those shoulder strikes. Seems like there should be a way to use that momentum to lift and turn and take him down.
You would think. But Cowboy already promised Conor that he wouldn't take him down so there was nothing he could do except stand there and take as many shoulder shots as Conor wanted to give him
 
Thats why Cowboy had a broken nose and orbital. Yeah, totally like foot stomps.
more like a black eye and a bloody nose, but whatever. He was not badly hurt which makes him folding faster than a Chinese laundromat even more strange
 
Shoulder strikes don't work well when you have proper hand positioning. Seriously you might get hit with one or two of them then you get slick to it. What cowboy did was completely brain fart. He let a person wind up multiple times and control both of his hands.
 
more like a black eye and a bloody nose, but whatever. He was not badly hurt which makes him folding faster than a Chinese laundromat even more strange

Medical reports showed broken nose and fractured orbital.

Not being a dick, just saying
 
Conor should of landed them against Mayweather, maybe he would of won.
 
Medical reports showed broken nose and fractured orbital.

Not being a dick, just saying
They actually say 'possible' minor orbital fracture. And his nose, if broken, was also very minor. People are acting like his face got destroyed. It didn't, just saying.
 
The real shot is the headbutt. One of the most powerful techniques a shorter fighter can do in the clinch is headbutt/jump headbutt into the lower jaw of the opponent. It has a huge chance of smashing out teeth and breaking the jaw of the opponent, breaking orbital bones, etc when properly executed.

Sadly headbutts are illegal, just another rule that artificially mitigates the natural superiority and advantage of being shorter in a fight.
This is true.
 
They seem so easy to land. And they're so quick to land and throw. And they're so powerful. They seem so obvious. Why has no one ever thrown these with bad intentions before?
Other fighters have used shoulder strikes before. It is just rare for a fighter to lunge in from so far out multiple times without their opponent making any adjustments.

A shoulder strike is primarily used to either create distance or to stun an opponent or to do both simultaneously. A shoulder strike can be used to set up powerful strikes or to initiate or be part of a combination. It is something that can disrupt an opponent. It could be used to lift the opponents head and to create space to land hooks, shovel hooks, uppercuts and over hand punches. It could be used to create some space to attempt to land hooks/shovel hooks to the liver or solar plexus.

Another in fighting technique that is used is a forearm strike that can also be used to create space or to position an opponents head.

There are plenty of in fighting techniques that are under utilized.

There are also plenty of "dirty boxing" techniques that are perfectly legal in mma.


The reason why you don't see more of shoulder strikes like McGregor on Cerrone is that most opponents make adjustments and that particular technique can work to a fighters detriment. A fighter can anticipate that strike and use that fighters momentum against them. Cerrone had an underhook with his left hand. He could have used that to pivot when McGregor leaped in. He could have used that to suplex McGregor or simply to knock him off balance to set up a combination of strikes himself. He could have possibly even attempted to time an elbow strike to catch McGregor as he leaped in.

But I guess the specific answer to your question is that a shoulder strike has a fairly low probability (relatively speaking) of creating a knockout. On a single strike basis it seems far more probable that a punch, elbow, knee or kick could create a knockout over a shoulder strike. Therefore it is arguable that rather than attempting to throw multiple shoulder strikes in succession it seems like it is a better strategy with a far higher probability of payoff to use shoulder strikes to create opportunities for some combination of punches, elbows, knees and kicks.
 
This thread is hilarious. Hard to know who’s trolling. Shoulder strikes have been used before. If they were really as powerful as uppercuts, you’d see them more often. A shoulder strike is like bunting. You might score a run, but you won’t score any home runs that way.

that said, it’s still a smart And effective technique to use. Adding to your arsenal only helps.
 
Clinch doesn't often end up in a position to throw shoulder strikes effectively. Especially not the same strike 3 times in a row with zero adjustment or attempt at adjustment from your opponent.
If someone wants to dive is a good excuse
 
So many people here with so much fight experience. You all know exactly what to do if you were in Cowboys position.

Even if you were already concussed from a knee you'd still would have known what to do.

Cowboy is such a bum.
 
The thing is hard shoulder strikes, and elbows, are sort of douche strikes to throw in sparring. So it’s not instinctive to throw or defend.
 
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