should ufc keep fighters with a losing record that are crowd favs?

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  1. MMAATHLETE

    MMAATHLETE Brown Belt

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    pride kept matsui around, you can think of examples for other organizations but seems ufc puts much more pressure to win or get cut.

    would fighters fight to finish and take more chances if ufc changed their stance a bit? They say they want entertaining fights but if you keep winning seems you get to stay no matter how boring?
     
  2. EndlessCritic

    EndlessCritic Gold Belt

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    What makes fights exciting are COMPETITIVE FIGHTS.

    A guy who consistently gets the shit beat out of him does not belong in the UFC.

    A guy who finds himself on the wrong end of close, but competitive decisions should keep his spot in the UFC.
     
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    BJ should just retire.
     
  4. Thrawn33

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    Depends how much dude is willing to take for a paycheck.
     
  5. MMAATHLETE

    MMAATHLETE Brown Belt

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    not saying consistently gets the shit beat out of him maybe the matsui example wasnt the best to mention lol but your second statement about keeping competitive decisions being kept is a sound idea
     
  6. nostradumbass

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    That is what they do. Leonard Garcia's only win in 6 UFC fights was that ridiculous decision over Nam Phan, Wand and Pat Barry both have losing records and still has a job while Dana booted Fitch and Okami while they were both top 10.
     
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    I don't know if they should, necessarily, but they do.

    Sometimes it's a good thing(Matt Brown), sometimes it's a dumb(Leonard Garcia).
     
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    Depends on the nature of the losses, how close the fights were but once you hit 4 loses in a row you should be out, 3 in most cases.
     
  9. guinepighamster

    guinepighamster Orange Belt

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    Depends on the losses, sometimes there is a bad decision or two in those 3-4 losses and it sucks for good fighters to get cut because of them.
     
  10. Non

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    Sure. Not every fighter in the UFC is going to be a title contender. Card fillers have their place in the UFC too.

    Obviously, keeping a guy like Garcia around for so long while he was losing and doing so in ugly fashion is hilarious. But a guy like Barry should stick around. Inconsistent but good for the undercard or first fight. Either win or lose, you know you're getting a fun fight with a finish.
     
  11. The ScorpioN

    The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!"

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    Wand is gonna be UFC's Matsui.
     
  12. TheKoreanZombie

    TheKoreanZombie Family Duty Honor

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    Nothing is more entertaining to the masses than a guy using his chin to absorb shot after shot.
     
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    If you lose, then you are not doing your job
     
  14. ALAN PARTRIDGE

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    Dan hardy should have been cut when he lost all those in a row
     
  15. Concrete

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    Who you're losing to should be a big factor. For example if you lose your title shot, then lose 2 more fights as you drop down the top 10, that still doesn't put you at the bottom of the division.

    Having said that, I don't feel bad about the Fitch and Okami cuts.
     
  16. Emjay

    Emjay And again and again and again and ag.. zzzzzzzz

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    It's all about entertainment

    If they're fun to watch for whatever reason, they'll stick around
     
  17. ocfightfan

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    I don't think there is a simple answer. The UFC has to balance sporting legitimacy with entertainment. I think there are many factors to consider when a guy is losing or inconsistent. Some of that is the loses, but some of it is to who, and how.
     
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    I think so. This is why Okami's boring ass is GGOOONNNEEE and why Pat Barry is still fighting.
     
  19. spid3yo

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    Not always true. I've had plenty of fun watching one sided bouts.
     
  20. ferrisjso

    ferrisjso Goat Lawyer

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    It all depends on WHO those losses are to. If they fight elite completion and win as much as they lose that's fine but if they face mid level lower level competition and win as much as they lose they're just a journeyman who can't do anything of value for the UFC.
     

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