Should MMA implement a 10 count if you are saved by the bell?

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  1. danwillbeback

    danwillbeback Brown Belt

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    In boxing you can't be saved by the bell.

    Iv seen it a bunch of times in mma, where a fighter is hurt so bad he cant stand and needs help to his corner.

    (ex: ufc 77 franklin was knocked out, and matt hume literally had to pick franklin up and carry him to the stool.)

    IF a fighter can't stand up on using his own power without the help of his corner shouldn't the fight be stopped?
     
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    Inverse Ginger Belt Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Not the worst idea I've heard.
     
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    HAWTRIDDUM Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    It's a legitimate concern.

    For the health of the fighters this issue does need to be addressed.

    The solution would be more complicated.
     
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    punky brewster Black Belt

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    The ref can send the doctor to the fighters corner to look at them if they feel it necessary. Whether the fighter can continue is up to the doctor then.

    That's probably what should have happened with Bisping, but the whole celebration clusterfuck put a wrench in that.
     
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    I've seen fights waved off after the bell. Can't think of a specific example but I know I have.
     
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    I like it.
     
  7. danwillbeback

    danwillbeback Brown Belt

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    If a fighter is hurt so bad, and cant stand up without outside help. shouldn't that be called a ko?

    the corner shouldn't be allowed to help his fighter stand and or walk.





     
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    Lyoto vs Thiago Silva. Silva laid flat on his back and made no attempt to get up. He was done and guess who waved it off. It was Herb Dean.

    So imo the ref should take a close look and make the decision if the fight should continue or a doctor should immediately check on the guy.

    However since Herb has done it before I believe he would do it again if he thinks a fighter is unable to continue. Bisping immediately talked to Herb about the situation and he most likely would have also answered the 10 count.
     
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    I think a 10 count is too much. In boxing they have it so the fight can keep going, which is exactly the opposite in MMA. If you need 10 seconds (or more since the count is slower) to stand up then you were most likely going to be KOed.
     
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    It's actually a legit proposal.
     
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    BJ penn vs Sean sherk lol
     
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    I have too, but I believe that after the bell has rung, only the doctor or the fighter's own corner can call the fight. The ref has no ability to end a fight in between rounds, unless he's instructed to.


    But, I could be wrong...
     
  13. danwillbeback

    danwillbeback Brown Belt

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    I could have sworn bisping needed help getting on his stool.

    I highly doubt he would have beat a ten count.

     
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    lakersfan45 That's sardo! No mr, accent on the do!

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    Not a bad overall idea. Im not sure a 10 count would work or if something else should be done.
     
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    Post Crisis Professional Shit-poster

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    It was Yamasaki. Also, Bisping wouldn't or couldn't get up until past ten seconds.
     
  16. HHJ

    HHJ Jeg reiser til mørkets dyp der alt er dødt.

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    No it shouldnt. The ref can take a look at the guy in between rounds and call the doctors in to have a look,like they do in boxing,or call it off himself.
     
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    HHJ Jeg reiser til mørkets dyp der alt er dødt.

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    " can we come up with a way that bisping would have lost the fight to anderson?"
     
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    HHJ Jeg reiser til mørkets dyp der alt er dødt.

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    Exactly.
     
  19. danwillbeback

    danwillbeback Brown Belt

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    If a fighter needs his corners help to get back to his feet, and can do it of his own power. How is that not a ko?



     
  20. Mood Swings

    Mood Swings . . helping you put on your big boy panties . .

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    I think we would end up seeing fighters being saved by the stand up!
     
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