Should fighters be fined for excessive show boating and stalling.

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An occasional Mark Hunt style taunt is fine don't get me wrong. However this shit that Anderson pulls in the octagon is insulting to the fucking sport and the people who watch it. The retarded antics he displays even whe he is winning is disgraceful. Standing there against the gate and weaving dodging which any boxer or someone with good movement can accomplish while throwing 0 offense well it's similiar to grapplers who pull someone down to the canvas and lays on them for a complete round and does nothing. I would give the ref the power to warn then flag them for fucking $ fines from their purse for going overboard on the circus act.
 
You can't play games in the octagon. Even if you are Anderson silva. He didn't respect Weidman's striking and he payed for it with his consciousness.
 
King Crab said:
An occasional Mark Hunt style taunt is fine don't get me wrong. However this shit that Anderson pulls in the octagon is insulting to the fucking sport and the people who watch it. The retarded antics he displays even whe he is winning is disgraceful. Standing there against the gate and weaving dodging which any boxer or someone with good movement can accomplish while throwing 0 offense well it's similiar to grapplers who pull someone down to the canvas and lays on them for a complete round and does nothing. I would give the ref the power to warn then flag them for fucking $ fines from their purse for going overboard on the circus act.
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No. You can't fine that.
"Just" go for low kicks or body shots when someone does that and keep the hands up. Or do what Bisping did: take a step back.
 
No. If you wanna clown. You will get knocked out for acting like a clown. I honestly think it's Andersons coping mechanism. I think he clowns when he gets nervous. Scared. Takes pressure of him and the situation. Turns the fight into a game. Everybody has something to them when they fight. Bendo has the toothpick. Roberto Duran I believed hummed a song while he fought.
 
I understand what your saying but disagree completely, Anderson has always been a great counter puncher and hits hardest when an opponent is off balance or stepping into the punch. I do however agree that at times when you have styles like this fighting against each other the showboating can turn into a snoozefest as both fighters are waiting on the other to throw first for a majority of the fight but look at what Silva did to Leben, Forest and many more when they got aggressive and pushed forward. Anderson staying against the cage was just him showing confidence in his movement and defence whilst still trying to bring Bisping in with a sloppy. timed punch which just never happened as Bisping is smarter than that ( that's what I thought anyway until he was more interested in his mouthguard then defending himself).
 
NikLuk said:
No. You can't fine that.
"Just" go for low kicks or body shots when someone does that and keep the hands up. Or do what Bisping did: take a step back.
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Yeah I liked how Bisping handled Silva's clowning. Didn't get frustrated, just stepped back like wtf?! Quality.

I like the idea of some sort of penalty for excessive clowning though, Anderson is his own worst enemy some times.
 
Fine fighters for delaying action and avoiding engagement. If someone wants to throw a fight it's kind of hard to stop.
 
excessive clowning is just inactivity. They are screwing themselves when it comes to the scorecards
 
Him clowning around is part of his fighting tactics, trying to get his opponent riled up. His not doing it because he is bored or being random, he is trying to counter when his opponent is overcommitting in their strikes.
 
I get it that a lot of people dislike his clowning. I think he takes them a bit too far and even got knocked out because of it once, but it still is just a strategy some fighters use and it isn't something that only Anderson uses.

Roy Jones Jr was a great user of these 'calculated clowning' tactics.

By the way, it is good to remind that the judges scored an unanimous decision for Michael Bisping, so you could wonder if Anderson didn't spend so much time clowning around maybe he could have won this fight.
 
asmodai59 said:
Yeah I liked how Bisping handled Silva's clowning. Didn't get frustrated, just stepped back like wtf?! Quality.

I like the idea of some sort of penalty for excessive clowning though, Anderson is his own worst enemy some times.
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There is some sort of penalty, just watch his first fight with Weidman, punishment doesn't get dished out more finely than that. Getting KO'd is what Anderson risks doing but he takes the gamble which I respect and pre Weidman that gamble nearly always payed off.
 
No. Not at all. I don't think we should mess with people's styles. Some of Silva's show boating has been some of the most entertaining MMA I've ever seen. I would hate to see guys with that ability like Michael Venom Page not be able to maintain the integrity of their fighting style.
 
Live by the sword, die by the sword. It was bad ass when he was doing it and beating people for 7 years straight. In hindsight, it bit him in the ass in the weidman and bisping fights. If I had a son in any sport, I wouldn't want him acting that way because I don't condone it. At the same time, it was also the reason I was on the edge of my seat watching him all these years.
 
Bispings noncommittal jab actually turned out to really be a problem for anderson. He needs you to commit to do his work.
 
People like Forest fell for it, after Bisping I think most people will just take a step back
 
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