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strikes and TDs landed, aggresion is scored too, so just defending yourself even against someone that is good at something isn't going to score you points
Should chin be considered in a judges decision?
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strikes and TDs landed, aggresion is scored too, so just defending yourself even against someone that is good at something isn't going to score you points
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No, how can judges take this into account? Such a sketchy category to add.
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Do you think they sit there & tally up points for every punch & TD landed? That's not how the 10-point must system works. Defense IS factored into decisions. By the logic posted, if you were to swing at me "aggressively" all fight long & not land a single punch, you would get more credit for being aggressive than I would for showing defensive technique. Does that even make sense? Although some judges value some elements in a fight more so than others, & some judges place a greater emphasis on aggression than others, aggression does not outweigh skill & technique in scoring a fight unless the aggression is more EFFECTIVE than the skill/technique. Are you trying to tell me that if my defense renders your offense INEFFECTIVE, this does not factor into the decision & you still win the fight with ineffective offense?
You seem to have difficulty comprehending... something very simple...
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I like how this comment has "no" in it twice. I'll add a third: no.
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No it's not. Back in PRIDE that was taken into consideration, but nowadays fights are scored round by round.
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No it's not. They don't care who would win if it continued.
I don't know about considering chin, but I'm getting tired of hearing about 'significant strikes'. If you throw hundreds of significant strikes, maybe none of them were significant!
When Anderson Silva lands a significant strike, his opponent usually goes down and gets finished soon after that.
When Jon Fitch lands a significant strike, he then lands another one, and then another one, but his opponent is not only fine, but able to keep him in the guard!
If the fight ended dead even we can't assume the guy with the historically weaker chin was necessarily going to be knocked out. There are so many skills involved "IF" the fight were to go on the guy with the supposedly glass jaw could still KO the other guy or submit him. That's true regardless of any decision fight but even more so in an even decision fight.
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Via Bispings... duh.
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no because its way too subjective...how do you measure chin? and in turn youd have to measure how hard someone punches as well...wouldnt work...
Obviously you never heard of the Bisping scale.
What? Judges don't judge a fight based on what they think would happen.
Judges judge a fight based on what had happened.
And right now, a fighter's "chin" is already directly affecting the effective striking aspect of judging.
What's the point of defending everything your opponent throws at you and not mounting your own offense? You will still probably lose based on lack of aggressiveness.
It's the offense that really counts, although takedown defense might help in terms of octagon control.
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I started laughing just from reading the title because the answer is so obvious.
Of course chin should be judged, but not just for it's strength. Facial hair style should also be taken into consideration, same with the size and shape of the chin. Poor facial hair upkeep can easily result in a DQ.
Of course chin should be judged, but not just for it's strength. Facial hair style should also be taken into consideration, same with the size and shape of the chin. Poor facial hair upkeep can easily result in a DQ.
