Sherdog Official Gaming Laptop & Review Thread (Revised)

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  1. Madmick

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    http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...lass-nvidia-10-series-gpus-available.1891053/
    Previous thread is above. I'm creating this to give our official gaming laptop thread a more solid and useful OP.

    This Reddit will stay up-to-date better than I will maintain this OP:

    I regard this German website to be the most useful and thorough laptop reviewer on the web:
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/


    Processing Power
    http://www.userbenchmark.com/
    • CPU
    • GPU (aka "video card")
    • RAM
    • Storage (SSD + HDD > SSD > Hybrid Drives > HDD)
    Everything Else
    • Display
      • Size (13.3", 15.6", and 17.3" are standards; 15.6" is most common)
      • Resolution (higher = better)
      • Display Type (OLED > IPS > TN*)
        • *for picture quality, but not gaming framerate/smoothness where TN is the best
      • Refresh Rate: 60 Hz or 120Hz? (higher = better)
      • G-Sync capable? (this will only apply to NVIDIA GPUs)
      • Touchscreen?
      • 2-in-1?
        • Convertible = can fold the keyboard over backwards to use touchscreen like a tablet
        • Detachable = detachable keyboards (ex. Windows Surface Pro)
    • Battery Life
      • higher= better, obviously
    • Ports & Sensors
    • Construction
      • Chassis build quality (Metal / Aluminum > Plastic)
      • Thickness/Weight
      • Surface Thermals (i.e. Can you sit it on your lap during extended peak usage?)
      • Don't overlook the size of the power brick used to plug the laptop into an outlet; some may be larger than desirable depending on the size of one's portable carrying vessels
    • Keyboard
      • Backlit or not?
    • Operating System & Software
      • Windows 10 > all other operating systems & versions of Windows for game performance
      • Pre-installed software (i.e. bloatware): the less the better

    Above are your major specs divided into two major categories. "Processing Power" refers to hardware components that will affect game performance. I've hyperlinked UserBenchmark for each component if you want to see how it stacks up.

    Laptops and desktops share many of the same components, but buying laptops is usually a bit simpler because it is designed to work as a single system, so you don't have to worry as much about research to make sure your individual components are all compatible/optimal for each other. There is very little that can be upgraded or replaced in a laptop. RAM and batteries are about it.

    -- the CPU and GPU are the most critical components. While UserBenchmark focuses on desktop components they are slowly adding in laptop components for easy-to-understand ratings and h2h comparisons. Be aware that for the GPU (aka "video card") this can often be confusing because on websites like Amazon or Best Buy the NVIDIA GTX 10 series GPUs will be listed in name indistinguishably from the laptop version. For a true benchmark comparison you must look for "Mobile" in the title. See the difference here:
    http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/m164336vs3639
    This is a big deal because frankly, right now, you really shouldn't be buying any gaming laptop that isn't running on an Intel CPU and an NVIDIA GTX 10 series GPU. They perform so much better at so much lower temperatures that AMD cannot compete in the laptop territory.
    Reasonable laptop gaming power has been achievable for $1500 or so for about the last 3-4 years, but the release that really changed everything for gaming laptops was when NVIDIA finally brought the desktop-class GPUs to laptops with the new GTX 10xx series. Almost all of these laptop video cards are now only 10%-30% behind their desktop versions (which are already the best in the world) in terms of performance, and there no longer exists an outlandish markup on any of the gaming laptops that carry a GTX 1060 6GB class GPU or lower; because they produce so little heat relative to past generations that it isn't presenting a major engineering challenge, anymore, for manufacturers to shove them into laptop spaces.

    Right now that Acer Helios Predator 300 everyone is mentioning is the bestselling overall gaming laptop on Amazon. It's 15" with mostly the same specs and comes in at $1050, so $1K is all that a highly respectable gaming laptop will run you in the USA, these days.

    The laptops carrying GTX 1070 or GTX 1080 cards still demand a more significant markup over the desktop market because they run quite hot, and because living in such a premium niche, they simply don't sell as large a volume. They're also massive and loud because they have to pack actual fans in to keep everything running smoothly. You won't be able to rest them on your lap. Furthermore, they still don't even make GTX 1080 Ti laptop cards. Too hot.

    By far the most desirable cards for gamers with no budgetary concerns are NVIDIA's new "Max-Q" laptop cards, and we're starting to see these in laptops starting around $1,500. These are actually even slightly weaker than the normal Pascal laptop video card versions I'm talking about above. Max-Q is considered a distinct laptop architecture. The reason they are so highly prized is because they took the weight, size, and heat reduction to even more incredible levels. Basically, you can fit a GTX 1080 card into a laptop as sleek as a MacBook Pro, and sit it on your lap. To prove this, in the product launch, NVIDIA executives would actually sit down, rest the laptops on their laps, and conduct the product pitch while it was running games for at least 15 minutes. Apparently they still generate a bit of noise, but less than the traditional Pascal mobile versions.



    Here is a list of all Max-Q laptops current to October 18th:
    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/16277-laptops-nvidia-max-q/

    I find it irritating that they felt the need to signify the leap in laptop performance with Pascal Mobile by dropping the "M" that used to come after the card. For example, back during the GTX 9xx generation, if you saw a laptop with a GTX 970 in it, they would write "GTX 970M" to indicate it was the laptop version. I wish they would still do that. Not doing it is misleading, and confusing for consumers.

    NVIDIA current video card classes
    • Desktop -------------> Pascal
    • Laptop ---------------> Pascal Mobile
    • Laptop premium --> Max-Q
    I wish they would just denote it this way. NVIDIA gets 2 out of 3 right (meanwhile retailers like Amazon make no distinction between any of the below):
    • Desktop --------------> GTX 1080
    • Laptop ----------------> GTX 1080M
    • Laptop Premium ---> GTX 1080MQ
    -- For RAM you really just want to procure at least 8GB. All current hardware will run DDR4 RAM. The MHz rating after that is an indication of speed, and you can review the varying binned DDR4 ratings in the spoiler rag, but this isn't terribly important, nor is it practical to reference because it's hard to find these specs quoted for laptop memory. The DDR4 class guarantees a minimum frequency of 2133MHz, and nearly every laptop on the market will run either 2133MHz or 2400MHz.
    Latency / Bandwidth = Cycle Time
    • CAS16/2133MHz = .00750
    • CAS17/2400MHz = .00708
    • CAS15/2133MHz = .00703
    • CAS16/2400MHz = .00667
    • CAS14/2133MHz = .00656
    • CAS15/2400MHz = .00625
    • CAS13/2133MHz = .00609
    • CAS16/2666MHz = .00600
    • CAS14/2400MHz = .00583
    • CAS15/2666MHz = .00562
    • CAS15/2800MHz = .00536
    • CAS16/3000MHz = .00533
    • CAS18/3600MHz = .00500
    • CAS16/3200MHz = .00500
    • CAS15/3000MHz = .00500
    • CAS14/2800MHz = .00500
    • CAS12/2400MHz = .00500
    • CAS16/3400MHz = .00490
    • CAS13/2666MHz = .00488
    • CAS16/3333MHz = .00480
    • CAS17/3600MHz = .00472
    • CAS15/3200MHz = .00469
    • CAS14/3000MHz = .00467
    • CAS16/3466MHz = .00461
    • CAS17/3733MHz = .00455
    • CAS18/4000MHz = .00450
    • CAS16/3600MHz = .00444
    • CAS14/3200MHz = .00438
    • CAS16/3666MHz = .00436
    • CAS17/4000MHz = .00425
    • CAS15/3600MHz = .00417
    • CAS19/4600MHz = .00413
    -- For storage an SSD is highly desirable for better load times and overall snappiness, but laptops can combine an SSD (for the OS) and an HDD (for more, cheap storage). This is the best of both worlds. The best tool to compare SSD performance is UserBenchmark if you can find the specific models, but again, for laptops, this tends to be impractical.

    -- The rest is mostly a matter of preference and individual user demands. Learn more about it by asking questions in this thread.



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    OCTOBER 2018 RECOMMENDATIONS
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    I don't recommend 14" or below for gaming laptops, due to the premium for the shrinking form factor, but the Alienware R3, Alienware 13, Razer Blade, and MSI Phantom or Stealth Pro variants are probably your best options in this size range. Every laptop below is considerably more powerful than the original PS4 or Xbox One.


    15"

    $1099
    Acer Predator Helios 300 Gaming Laptop, 15.6" FHD IPS w/ 144Hz Refresh Rate, Intel 6-Core i7-8750H, Overclockable GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB DDR4, 256GB NVMe SSD, Aeroblade Metal Fans PH315-51-78NP

    Acer Predator Helios 300 (2018)
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    • Display: 15.6" 1920x1080 IPS
    • CPU: i7-8750H
    • GPU: GTX 1060 6GB (mobile version)
    • RAM: 16GB DDR4-2666
    • SSD: 256GB
    • *Receive Activision Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 with Purchase - Valid 10/21/18–04/31/19 or while supplies last.
    The reigning #1 bestselling gamer laptop for nearly two years, now, and the price has dropped $100 on this 2018 model. Acer is still stained by a reputation for being something of a problem brand for laptops, but that's for its budget office offerings. Their "Predator" gaming monitors are the most highly prized gaming displays in the world, and pretty much anything they make under that sub-branding, including laptops, is afforded special attention in order to uphold it.


    eSport
    $1229 (GTX 1050 Ti variant)
    ASUS ROG Strix Scar Edition 17.3” 120Hz 3ms Gaming Laptop, 8th-Gen Intel Core i7-8750H Processor (up to 3.9GHz), GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, 16GB DDR4, 128GB PCIe SSD + 1TB Hybrid HDD, Windows 10 - GL703GE-ES73
    Asus ROG Strix SCAR Edition
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    • Display: 17.3" 1920x1080 TN 120Hz G-Sync
    • CPU: i7-8750H
    • GPU: GTX1060 6GB (mobile version)
    • RAM: 16GB DDR4-2666
    • SSD: 128GB
    • SSHD: 1TB Firecuda
    Competitive gamers favor TN panels with lower response times, higher refresh rates, and G-Sync capability to eliminate screen tearing. The GTX 1050 Ti is more than enough graphics power for most eSport titles, but there is a GTX 1060 6GB upgrade (w/256GB SSD) for $1519, and there is even a GTX 1070 variant with a 144Hz panel for $1899. There are smaller laptops, if that is one wants, but this Asus stands out for beating most 15" competitors on price despite the larger screen: impressive. Nevertheless, be prepared for terrible battery life even outside games since G-Sync and Optimus are mutually exclusive technologies.

    Cheaper 15.6" Alternative:
    ASUS ROG Strix Gaming Laptop 15.6", Intel Core i5-8300H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, 128GB SSD + 1TB SSHD Storage, 8GB RAM, GL503GE-ES52


    17"
    $1129
    Acer Aspire 7 A717-72G-700J 17.3" IPS FHD GTX 1060 6GB VRAM i7-8750H 16 GB Memory 256 GB SSD Windows 10 VR Ready Gaming Laptop
    Acer Aspire 7
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    • Display: 17.3" 1920x1080
    • CPU: i7-8750H
    • GPU: GTX 1060 6GB (mobile version)
    • RAM: 16GB DDR4-2400
    • SSD: 256GB
    Alternative
    ($1699) Asus GL Series GL702VI-MH72 17.3" 60Hz Full HD Gaming Notebook Computer, Intel Core i7-7700HQ 2.80GHz, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB, Windows 10 Home [No tax outside NY/NJ]


    Budget Sub-$1K
    $749
    Acer Nitro 5 AN515 Laptop: Core i5-8300H, 15.6inch Full HD IPS Display, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Graphics
    Acer Nitro 5
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    • Display: 15.6" 1920x1080 IPS
    • CPU: i5-8300HQ
    • GPU: GTX 1050 Ti 4GB (mobile version)
    • RAM: 8GB DDR4
    • SSD: 256GB
    Rather than upgrade the components Acer opted to knock down the price. Alternatives to consider:
    -- MSI GV62 8RD-200
    -- Lenovo Legion Y530
    -- Asus TUF Gaming FX504G
    -- Dell G3 15 Gaming
    -- Dell G7 15 Gaming


    State of the Art
    $2899
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus GX501GI-XS74 (8th-Gen) 15.6” Ultra Slim Gaming Laptop, 144Hz IPS-Type G-SYNC Panel, GTX 1080 8GB, Intel Core i7-8750H processor (up to 3.9GHz), 512GB PCIe SSD, 16GB DDR4 2666MHz, Windows 10 Pro
    Asus ROG Zephryus GX501GI
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    • Display: 15.6" 1920x1080 144Hz G-Sync IPS
    • CPU: i7-8750H
    • GPU: GTX 1080 8GB (Max-Q version)
    • RAM: 16GB DDR4-2666
    • SSD: 512GB
    If you don't suffer any budgetary concerns the above laptop is considered the finest gaming laptop in the world. Its predecessor was the model NVIDIA used to introduce and launch their "Max-Q" video cards that allow for such light and sleek laptops with such incredible power. This is the 2018 update. The MSI Stealth GS65 model is eating most of this market at its lower price, while appearing to enjoy both higher customer satisfaction and laptop reviewer acclaim, but only offers variants up to the weaker GTX 1070 Max-Q GPU.

    For more $2K+ options here is a list of all the Max-Q laptops available current as of this posting:
    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/16277-laptops-nvidia-max-q/


    Additionally, some enthusiast lines that cater to hardcore gamers in the laptop world are below. However one feels about them they are worth mentioning in this context to curious consumers:
    Alienware gaming laptops
    Asus ROG gaming laptops
    Acer Predator gaming laptops
    Razer gaming laptops

    Finally, the online zine LAPTOP MAG (associated with Tom's Guide) offers this article series grading the most recent gaming laptops manufactured by each of the major players.
    2018 Gaming Laptop Brand Rating & Report Card
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    Here is their page will their specific, top recommended models. Be warned that every single model on the list is over $1000; ironically including even their "Best Under $1,000" pick:
    https://www.laptopmag.com/gaming-laptops
     
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    There's a monster out there with dual 1080ti's in it. Can't remember who makes it but I was thinking of selling one of my trucks to get one.

    Not really, I can't afford it even after selling a truck.
     
  3. loyalyolayal

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    Acer.


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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Yeah, the Acer Predator 21X is a fine option for Scrooge McDuck:
    $8,999: Acer Predator 21 X Gaming Laptop, Intel Core i7, GeForce GTX 1080 SLi, 21" Curved 2000R Full HD, 64GB DDR4, 1TB PCIe SSD, 1TB HDD, with 21X Protective Travel Case, GX21-71-76ZF
    What's the point of dual GTX 1080 Ti's for a 2560x1080 screen?

    There's more. Notebookcheck actually offers the ability to filter by GPU configurations. If you scroll down to the "benchmarks" you can study which laptop models have actually benchmarked this configuration.
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-SLI-Laptop-Benchmarks-and-Specs.178631.0.html
    Here are the laptops with Dual SLI GTX 1080 Ti configurations:
    Of these the Asus ROG GX800VH would appear to be the most sensible dream laptop build:
    ASUS ROG GX800VH Liquid-Cooled Gaming Laptop 18.4”, 4K, G SYNC, Core i7-7820HK, Dual GTX 1080 SLI, 1.5 TB SSD, 64GB, RGB KB
    Official page here:
    https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ROG-GX800VH-7th-Gen-Intel-Core/
    4K screen, G-sync, liquid cooling, higher-clocked RAM, larger SSD, all for $6K. Both have shit battery life (up to 3 hours).

    But...the truth is there's a reason that NVIDIA didn't even put out a GTX 1080 Ti version of Max-Q. These just get too hot; especially when you SLI them. You won't be able to actually use this on your lap. It's not terribly practical for a laptop. Just too much heat. Furthermore, there's the fact that while we were promised SLI/Crossfire as the future a mere few years ago when the low-level APIs like Mantle debuted the opposite has been realized. SLI/Crossfire is dead:


    Additionally, that thing comes with a protective case because the computer costs $9,000. Unless you're comfortable putting a $9K item in a flimsy backpack there's just no practical advantage for portability over the most LAN-friendly Mini-ITX setups, and these can built with superior specs for less than 1/3rd the price. Their cases are no more cumbersome than the 21X's "Protective Travel Case." If you want that much power--- you need to get into building:
    Sherdog: The Best LAN Party PC Cases
    PCPP: Mini ITX Cases compatible with Dual SLI x Zotac Mini GTX 1080 SLI

    Corsair Graphite 380T
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    Lian Li PC-TU200
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    NCASE M1 v5
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    Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX
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  5. loyalyolayal

    loyalyolayal Gold Belt

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    That's just Acer trying to get into the gaming market. They're trying to make a name for themselves the way a pretty non-descript Taiwanese brand like MSI did-only they're pushing it to ridiculous levels only to say that they did.
     
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    I'm pretty much out in the gaming laptop scene. Gotta build a decent rig in the neae future or when my old msi craps out. Anyway, story time:

    Electronics are very expensive in the philippians. As I was still in Malaysia earlier this month, I saw a dude selling his Asus rog with 980m for around 870usd. I could sell my msi(870m)here in the flip for almost the same price. I was looking for buyers but I only have 3 days left. missed opportunity.
     
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    Laptop Question.

    Do any of you guys know how i can tell when a laptop i have was first used?

    A guy selling it is saying its a year old and i think he is full of shit.

    Lenovo Think Pad if it matters.
     
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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Sure. You can look up when computers were manufactured. You just need the full model number.
     
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    Thanks.

    Found what I needed.

    The apparently 1 year old laptop was purchased in oct 2015.
     
  10. ben236

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    For those on a budget and can do without playing the latest games at the highest settings at 60fps, you should also check out the Nvidia's MX150 GPU. Not quite as good as the GTX1050, but it will definitely save a couple hundred bucks and can play a lot of newer games very well with a few tweaks to the resolution and graphic settings.

    For example: You can get an Acer Aspire 5 with this GPU in it for $600 US

     
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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I'm more excited about the new collaboration between Intel and AMD (the first time since the 1980's) in the iGPU space. NVIDIA has been the monster in the laptop space, even in the lower end, no question, but I think they're about to get smacked.
    Intel and AMD team up: A future Core chip will have Radeon graphics inside
     
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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Checking in on that hot new startup brand Eluktronics I noticed they have put out the first truly affordable Max-Q offering in a sub-$2K range. Keep in mind the main advantages of Max-Q are that it runs so cool you can game with the laptop on your lap, it runs whisper quiet, and allows for the laptops to be as thin and light as ultrabooks:

    Eluktronics Pro-X P950HR/P957HR
    (15.6" 1080p Ultra Portable 0.73" Thin 4.9lb VR Ready Gaming Laptop)

    Base Price: $1399
    Max Price: $1999

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    • Display: 15.6" 1920x1080
      • 60Hz IPS
        vs.
      • 120Hz TN (+$50)
    • CPU: i7-7700HQ
    • GPU: GTX 1070 8GB (Max-Q version)
    • SSD/RAM:
      • 128GB PCIe + 8GB DDR4-2400
        vs.
      • 256GB PCIe + 16GB DDR4-2400 (+$250 IPS / +$250 TN)
        vs.
      • 512GB PCIe + 32GB DDR4-2400 (+$500 IPS / +$550 TN)
    • HDD: 1TB 5400RPM

    One can choose between the better color and wider viewing angles of IPS versus the higher framerate and more responsive TN panel type. Then there are three SSD/RAM variations for each type of panel. Finally, there are two colors (950HR & 957HR, the latter shown above). Thus, this laptop model has 12 total variants ranging from a baseline of $1400 with the most expensive variant coming in at $2K. The middle units appear to hold the sweet spot.

    In addition to the above, it also boasts the backlit RGB keyboard and so many graphics ports (including 2xUSB 3.1 Gen 2 ports) than it can support NVIDIA's "True Surround".
     
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    Asus Zephyrus is still the sexiest laptop of the bunch.
     
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    Xiaomi goes after Alienware’s throne with a gaming laptop at ‘half the price’
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    Not sure why Alienware is so expensive over there.

    This price ($1,440) for these hardware specs is still not as good as the price we're paying here. But maybe this will cause a pressure change somewhere in the chain creating a ripple that somehow finds it way over to us. Xiaomi and Huawei are monsters.
     
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    The Asus one looks sick but I bet it heats up fast.

    I have a ROG and medium settings on Overwatch heats it up.
     
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    I rock the Razer Blade 14 2017 model (i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, GTX 1060 6GB) and it's the sexiest gaming laptop of them all:
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    The slimmest gaming laptop available right now. Its a beast but gets hot and loud when under full load. To counter the heat/noise, I undervolt and it's fairly silent under load now.
     
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    Xiaomi just went full retard. Priced ($ 1450)between the dell 7577 and razer blade. I was expecting an acer price range.


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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Expect the Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 to be available in a couple of days from now
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    The star of CES for Dell is nearing its debut, and is the first laptop known to me that will bring the brand new Kaby Lake-G processors to the market (the collaboration between Intel, with their Kaby Lake CPU architecture, and AMD, with their Vega M GPU architecture): the i5-8305G and i7-8705G. The Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 (9375) is set to rival the HP Spectre x360 15 that will also carry the Kaby Lake-G processors.
    Notebookcheck > Dell XPS 15-9575
    Notebookcheck > CES 2018 | The Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 is real — and it sure runs hot


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    The latest Intel "Hades Canyon" NUC unit possesses the i7-8809G which is the flagship Kaby Lake-G processor and only a few percent better than the ones going into the Dell XPS unit above:



    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Bench...-CPU-and-RX-Vega-M-GPU-leak-out.287220.0.html
    Looks like those mobile Intel + AMD Kaby Lake processors have already found their way into NUCs, and they're going to brand the flagship of this generation of NUCs, the one carrying the i7-8809G, the "Hades Canyon". Tons of gaming benchmarks in the link above.

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    Just when I was ready to join team rog, team dragon pulls me in again. My body's ready but my wallet isn't.
     
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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I hadn't seen the MSI. I had intended to post about the new Gigabyte Aero a few days ago when I got caught up in posting about the new Apple chips and ditching Intel, and I still hadn't gotten around to reading it. Here was the headline that caught my eye:
    Engadget > Gigabyte Aero 15X review: The best lightweight gaming laptop yet
    It's 4.5 pounds.
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