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Shane Carwin's possible use of roids

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  1. teamcarvalho

    teamcarvalho Green Belt

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    Took me to a different page..a search page.
     
  3. thaiboxer67

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    just a general comment but do you still believe top level people don't do em? cause i for one don't
     
  4. teamcarvalho

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    Try this...


    An assistant U.S. attorney named former Ultimate Fighting Championship interim heavyweight champion Shane Carwin as one of seven athletes who was a customer of a pharmacist who was sentenced Friday in a Mobile, Ala., federal court to a four-year prison term for participating in a nationwide conspiracy to sell anabolic steroids.

    According to AlabamaLive.com, assistant U.S. attorney Donna Dobbins named Carwin (pictured on the left in 2007) during the sentencing of Mobile resident J. Michael Bennett, a supervising pharmacist at Applied Pharmacy Services, as one of the athletes whose orders contained Bennett's signature or initials. The others are:

    Kurt Angle, a former Olympic gold medal-winning wrestler and professional wrestler.

    Bob Howard, a pro wrestler from Mobile who performed under the name "Hardcore" Bob Holly.

    Toney Freeman, a professional bodybuilder nicknamed "The X-Man."

    Quincy Taylor, a professional bodybuilder.

    Dennis Newman, a professional bodybuilder.

    Troy Zuccolotto, a professional bodybuilder.

    In addition, the Mobile Press-Register reported that two professional baseball players, seven other professional wrestlers and six other professional bodybuilders are referenced by their initials only.

    Neither Carwin nor his manager, Jason Genet, could be reached for comment.

    Update I - Genet spoke with Fanhouse this afternoon and said Carwin had no comment but would be releasing a statement in the future.

    Update II - UFC president Dana White told Yahoo! Sports' Kevin Iole that he was aware of the story but had no other information and declined further comment.

    Applied Pharmacy Services was previously linked to baseball players Jose Canseco and Gary Matthews Jr. and boxer Evander Holyfield.

    According to the Press-Register, court documents indicate that APS shipped more than 762,000 dosages of anabolic steroids to 17 doctors and clinics from April 4, 2004, until Aug. 30, 2006.

    The U.S. Attorney's Office in Mobile contends that does not include many other doctors and clinics that they say participated in the conspiracy.

    Those performance-enhancing drugs ended up in the hands of users ranging from professional athletes to teenagers looking to build body mass. Prosecutors cited 22 professional athletes who obtained steroids from Applied Pharmacy Services during the time Bennett worked there.

    Dobbins told the paper that the steroids were powerful and weren't for human consumption.

    "These steroids are for horses and cows, not for young people and humans," she said.

    Prosecutor referenced the five convicted pharmacists as, "drugs dealers in lab coats" and said they were also selling drugs approved only for use in livestock.

    Carwin last fought for the UFC in July at UFC 116. He challenged Brock Lesnar for the promotion's heavyweight title. He was signed by the UFC in January of 2008 after he rolled to an 8-0 record between October of 2005 and December of 2007. Here's Carwin's win over Justice Smith in June of 2006.

    Yaho! Sports' Kevin Iole contributed to this story
     
  5. Crazy Legs

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    That sucks. Hope its not true... not all that surprising though.
     
  6. KILL KILL

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    I put the blame on lousey testing if he was really using
     
  7. Alaskantkdkid

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    Doesn't this belong in Heavies?
     
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    what a douche
     
  9. Misplaced

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    Honestly at this point the only thing that I'm surprised about is how good people have gotten at cycling and passing drug tests.
     
  10. VoodooPlata

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    UFC should have olympic-style testing - maybe let the athletes pay for it themselves but offer slightly higher purses to athletes who get it, since clean athletes are much more marketable.
     
  11. Mike Wilson Jr.

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    Anyone else notice that the time they were shipping these drugs was before 2006? He started MMA in 2005, and didnt make it into the UFC until 2008?

    Doesnt mean he has been using the whole time. And either way, im neither surprised, or concerned.
     
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    I don't see why that would be true at all. Is someone losing money today because there are suspicions that UFC athletes are on gear? I'm not sure that any of the traditional sponsors or UFC fans really care.
     
  13. Doctor Gonzo

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    it would be hilarious if Roy Nelson was busted for steroids
     
  14. Mat Nemesis**

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    Really, well since you know so much tell us all about how to cycle and not get caught. and why does anyone ever get caught?

    This is annoying. believe it or not, people can be good at mma without juicing and I would say the majority do not.


    yes and it has been discussed to death there.
     
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    [​IMG]

    looks like an average chemical-free body to me
     
  16. BJJ_Rage

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    I hope you are joking...

    If that pic is from someone who weights 170 pounds, yes, but that is a picture of a 300 pound person, with abs, and thats not even the best picture of him... I think his old fights are on youtube, he was a total and absolute beast (and wasnt only for his fighting skills)... dude was on roids before the UFC, hard to say that he wasnt, but I think hes been clean since joining the UFC...
     
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    While we are on the topic, I have a hard time believing Brock Lesnar is not on roids.
     
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    most top fighters probably use roids just like most top athletes in other pro sports.
     
  19. BJJ_Rage

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    I have my doubts, I dont think he was when he joined the UFC, but after he got sick, he lost around 40 pounds, and in a couple of months he gained 40 pounds again, and he looked much better for his carwin fight than what he ever looked in his past fights...
     
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    I dunno. I think brock is just one in a billion that can pack meat on like noone else. Read an article when he was in college where he was regularly tested and he put on over 60 pounds of muscle with a 9% bodyfat. very impressive. Another man that comes to mind is Alexander karelin. The guy was a genetic freak. passed every olympic drug test known to man. people still have their doubts but could never prove it or even formulate a theory on how he could get away with it. I think there are people out there that just defy logic when it comes to body composition.
     

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