setting the pace against a brawler?

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  1. fastbalej

    fastbalej Yellow Belt

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    whatsup, i found this AM EXHIBITION cage fighting place that im going to fight in for experiance.. its in NY.. your forced to wear open face headgear, 7oz gloves and hsinguards.. i figured its a good way to get cage experiance before i goto combat in the cage or a more serious league. well i was watching videos of past fights and mostly they come out brawling all sloppy ect.. i dont have too much standup, mostly bjj.. so im learning but whats the best way to slow down a brawler and set the pace like professional fighters go.. take there time ect.. u know?
     
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    eastcoast25 White Belt

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    stick your jab and rotate away from there power....they'll gas.
     
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    Rinksterk** Banned Banned

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    two words: straight punches.
     
  4. Rocked

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    brawler= throw lots of quick straights. Get to where he has to back up to make the punches effective.
     
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    Iranwarmachine Brown Belt

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    with your grappling background go for the shoot tire them on the ground then it will take all their power away.
     
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    dkickboxer Banned Banned

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    Straight punches and keep your range. Don't get into the mindset of wanting to close the distance and exchange
     
  7. fightingrabbit

    fightingrabbit Banned Banned

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    this guy has it down.

    Stick your jab in between his flurries so you interrupt his combos and prance away laughing.
     
  8. ambertch

    ambertch Purple Belt

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    If you've got other tips or general ringmanship advice i'll take whatever ya got to help me :)

    I'll be boxing a brawler in a couple weeks - short wide guy with stumpy arms, loves to throw hooks and turns really quick.

    My game plan thus far is I'm going to circle fast while pumping out jabs, full extension of straight punches. When he gets his feet grounded I'll try to shell up and interrupt with a jab then start moving again.
     
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    Work on counter punching as well. Simply shelling up isn't the best defense. You'll be letting him unleash his combinations on you.

    You have the right idea of pumping out jabs to make him reset. If he does get off with his combos, work on an active defense. Head movement, roll your shoulders and look to counter with uppercuts and hooks (if you got them) if he gets close. Eating a hard shot generally makes brawlers think twice. I usually try to "brawl back" when they're resetted by a counter or jab. Before he tries to get his offense going, attack with your own combinations. But make sure to go back to boxing mode because if he's a true brawler/infighter he's gonna get his bearings back and engage in a brawl.
     
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    ambertch Purple Belt

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    muchos gracias!
     
  11. Combat in the Cage has some slackers too..
     
  12. koreankid6413

    koreankid6413 Brown Belt

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    straight punches, work your jab and your angles, keep your distance, stay on the balls of your feet and keep moving
     
  13. fightingrabbit

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    Yeah, with a brawler itd be ALL about ring generalship. Whos controlling who? If he pushes into you. you circle away from his bumrush and stick a one-two in his face, If he backs up, you pressure forward with your straight punches. Think of yourself as a bullfighter. Even it hes putting you on the retreat and you're the one being chased around, you have to be smart about it. You have to make him pay for chasing you. So while it may look like hes the aggressor and putting more work in, in reality, you're the one in control.

    If he does manage to bull you onto the ropes, Rinksterk is right, shelling up isnt enough, and countering with the odd jab might work alright, but sometimes it will not work effectively enough if hes throwing punches in bunches and you've got nowhere to go.

    So the best advice i can think of right now if hes got you backed up is, Even while you're shelled up, you HAVE to keep your eyes on your opponent. If you cant see what hes throwing, you cant counter it. So dont just cover up with your head averted or down (risk of eating a bad uppercut too if you do that) Have an effective guard where you can protect yourself, yet still have a vision of what your opponent is throwing.

    So say you see his left hook coming, and you beat him to it, you feel it land and hes stunned for a sec, dont just stay there, hook and turn him, reverse the roles. Now his backs to the ropes. Now you punish him for even attempting to put you to the ropes, Like Rinksterk said, brawl him back, get in his head. Your mindset has to be "Bitch, now look whos brawling who?" You have to put it into his head while he can be the aggressor in the fight, you're going to make him pay for it everytime. Because if you just circle away from him like scared prey, You've still given him the idea that he can bull you around and that gives him an edge. Its a psychological battle and that plays a very important part in ring generalship.

    Once your back in the middle of the ring. Once again, you're the bullfighter, and if you've been fighting him correctly, he'll start to look like a huffing and puffing disheartened bull.
     
  14. T.J.T

    T.J.T Green Belt

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    Lebon said i think, box a brawler, brawl a boxer. be more crisp with your shots, dont shell or they will fire away and i assume he has decent power, jab and move.
     
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    BJJ Coffee Drinker Amateur Fighter

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    everyone pretty much said it. another thing I find that can slow down some brawlers/aggressiveness is when you walk out to the middle of the ring after the ref says fight, you can walk slowly toward your opponent with you r hand outstretched an raised to let them know you want to touch gloves and that can stop the intense initial outburst wen they run at you from across the cage with some crazy shit or some kinda big punch. this only works sometimes
     
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    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Uppercuts, particularly to the body THEN the head, or the body, then short hooks upstairs, are the keys to whoopin' a brawler on the inside.
     
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    throw in a few body shots to wear him down and you got it. wrestling tires out brawlers fast so take him down as soon as possible.
     
  18. Eric Lau

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    straight punches ftw against brawlers
     
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    Lol make him think, "hey this is a nice guy!" Like what jermaine was doing to kelly in the rematch.

    Oh and since this is MMA, you slow down the pace by clinching and wrestling unless he's the better wrestler and manhandles you.
     
  20. Vector_X

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    stick that jab and keep moving. Against a brawler you don't want to be standing still and they will tire out quick enough.
     

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