seemless transition from a hiptoss to an armbar?

[Gantz]

is it possible? I mean when u hip toss a person and you're still holding his other arm and you quickly go for an armbar or a mount, theres a chance u might get it right?

 

[Bubble Boy]

Absolutely possible. Happens all the time. I'll see if I can find some judo clips for later this evening.

 

[3s_em1]

1. While standing, step inside and grab leading arm/wrist
2. Position your legs for hip toss
3. Toss while keeping control of the wrist (Toss to the left - in this case)
4. Step over the head while still keeping control over the arm (left leg for me)
5. Step over the body (Right leg for me)
6. Apply Arm Bar until he/she taps

 

[kishiro]

is it possible? I mean when u hip toss a person and you're still holding his other arm and you quickly go for an armbar or a mount, theres a chance u might get it right?

yes it is pretty common, the cross armlock is seen as a follow up off hip throws, the opponet is stunned and taken advantage.

makikomi is another one i see used alot as a throw/armbar combo

 

[JesySpringield]

very common........some hip tosses even more.........but what hiptosses alloow the smoothes transition or even allow the transition in mid air? nice thread.........I would post what I thought the answers where but I need too drill some transitions first. Do the same.......I have not been on the mats lately but when I do.............hopefully someone can enlighten me before that.

 

[SamuraiRat]

Probably, but after today only if done by the right person. Some jackass that looked lke coach Buzzcut from Beavis & Butthead was trying to show how a woman 5'3 could do that move to an attacker 6'. Needless to say it looked stupid. So if your the right person do it!

 

[CrazyCossack]

The seamless transition is definetly possible however not always advised.

I'd always want to sit right down into the armbar after any hip throw.

My Judo instructor, (and a brown in bjj) stressed that getting control first was MUCH better than just going all out for the armbar. Even if its just dropping a knee on them to pin them a little bit (they are on their side, arm up in the air, and you are placing knee almost in armpit) not necessarily kne on belly.

Getting the control and position was far more important than just jumping into an armbar in his view.

It works, but chances are better people will escape it, because they know that arm is exposed.

 

[Jimmy Cerra]

It isn't technically a hip toss, but ippon seoinage transitions well into an armbar. So does uchi mata sometimes, although it technically isn't a hip toss either.

 

[YeahBee]

yes it is pretty common, the cross armlock is seen as a follow up off hip throws, the opponet is stunned and taken advantage.

makikomi is another one i see used alot as a throw/armbar combo

Am I using the wrong terminology here? Isn't makikom just any throw that you follow to the ground? like Soto Makikomi? Or is following to the ground jsut a varaint of Soto Makikomi

You land in sidecontrol after makikomi for what I know or if you do a standing Soto Makikomi you don't have the same angle when you have finished as a o-goshi for example

 

[YeahBee]

1. While standing, step inside and grab leading arm/wrist
2. Position your legs for hip toss
3. Toss while keeping control of the wrist (Toss to the left - in this case)
4. Step over the head while still keeping control over the arm (left leg for me)
5. Step over the body (Right leg for me)
6. Apply Arm Bar until he/she taps

How sweet wouldn't it be to see a nice O-goshi ain MMA and right between 3 and 4 see a soccerkick to the ribs

 

[PhxJudoJujitsu]

Sure it happens alot, it's one of my bread and butter attempts