Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by OverCoronavirus Pressure, Aug 15, 2016.

  1. OverCoronavirus Pressure

    OverCoronavirus Pressure I don't think you ready for this jelly

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    61,782
    Likes Received:
    95,214
    Location:
    5/7/89 Grateful Dead show, Frost amphitheatre
  2. DragRacer

    DragRacer Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2010
    Messages:
    9,807
    Likes Received:
    28,928
    Location:
    Columbus OH
    Dude. It's the NY Times.

    It's about as bizzare as Breitbart reporting that Hillary Clinton pimped Chelsea to Osama Bin Laden for donations to The Clinton Foundation.

    Is Normal.
     
  3. OverCoronavirus Pressure

    OverCoronavirus Pressure I don't think you ready for this jelly

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    61,782
    Likes Received:
    95,214
    Location:
    5/7/89 Grateful Dead show, Frost amphitheatre
    Well, how can you not report that, I mean Chelsea was so used. I get that she's loyal to her mom, though...
     
    Kafir-kun and mike sherry like this.
  4. phipps66

    phipps66 Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    2,624
    Likes Received:
    1,525
    Location:
    CT
    When the whole Russian email hack of the DNC thing was going on I could tell by the way Trump reacted to it that he and Putin had something going on. Trump should have denounced the whole thing, saying foreigners shouldn't be meddling in our elections and that stuff would never fly if he was president etc. etc. Instead, he used it as a way to make punchlines and grab headlines.
     
    M3t4tr0n likes this.
  5. DragRacer

    DragRacer Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2010
    Messages:
    9,807
    Likes Received:
    28,928
    Location:
    Columbus OH
    Haha don't cry Chels. This is for America

     
    BruceLeeOnTRT likes this.
  6. JudoThrowFiasco

    JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2014
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    32,118
    well A, no proof that Manafort obtained the transfers and B, its allegedly from 07-12.

    He was an independent consultant and advisor who worked with Yanukovych way before he was campaign manager for Trump.


    I agree this adds smoke to connect russian interest to possibly the Trump campaign; but, apparently that just politics and we can ignore it. As some people say Clinton questionable gains via the Saudis, Russians and her foundation are just poppycock.
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2016
    Dalarna3 and panamaican like this.
  7. M3t4tr0n

    M3t4tr0n Sheriff of Sherfront

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2010
    Messages:
    24,271
    Likes Received:
    40,084
    Location:
    Flat Earth
    Strychnine likes this.
  8. superpunch

    superpunch Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2015
    Messages:
    15,700
    Likes Received:
    17,537
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_the_messenger
     
  9. OverCoronavirus Pressure

    OverCoronavirus Pressure I don't think you ready for this jelly

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    61,782
    Likes Received:
    95,214
    Location:
    5/7/89 Grateful Dead show, Frost amphitheatre
    It was a simultaneous blow against terrorism's future and pantsuits
     
  10. TheComebackKid

    TheComebackKid Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    47,365
    Likes Received:
    19,840
    Well at least he didn't sell 20% of our uranium to them. The whole thing would probably be ignored if thats the case.
     
    Dalarna3, Blackened and BruceLeeOnTRT like this.
  11. OverCoronavirus Pressure

    OverCoronavirus Pressure I don't think you ready for this jelly

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    61,782
    Likes Received:
    95,214
    Location:
    5/7/89 Grateful Dead show, Frost amphitheatre
    BTW thanks to whomever changed the title, much better than my pre-coffee nonsense.
     
    BruceLeeOnTRT likes this.
  12. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    37,955
    Likes Received:
    40,245
    Exactly right.

    Anyone who's read up on Manafort knows that he did political work around the globe and with plenty of unsavory characters as well savory ones. So, it stands to reason that he's been paid by them for services rendered.

    It has nothing to do with Trump and it's certainly not illegal to get paid for doing your job. The only questionable part is if it's "off the books" but it's the Ukraine, are we expecting GAAP precision from them?
     
  13. JudoThrowFiasco

    JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2014
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    32,118
    I guess the only illegal activity is if he didn't declare it on his taxes -- but again, there's no evidence he obtained the money or it was even transferred -- just a handwritten ledger.

    This is media rubbing two sticks together in an desperate attempt to create any smoke they can.
     
    Snake_Plissken likes this.
  14. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    37,955
    Likes Received:
    40,245
    As long as people are consistent on these things, it's fine. But people can't scream bloody murder about one candidate's connections with foreign interests and then disregard the other candidates. Or ignore one and not ignore the other one.

    I think they're both non-stories.
     
    The ScorpioN likes this.
  15. JudoThrowFiasco

    JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2014
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    32,118
    i mostly agree -- but i think its more contentious when the questionable dealings happen when someone is in public office vs someone who is a private consultant.

    but that may just be me.
     
    The ScorpioN likes this.
  16. Hans Gruber

    Hans Gruber Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2007
    Messages:
    18,266
    Likes Received:
    12,917
    Thank Madmick (of course)

    You die hard Hillary supporters are funny.

    It was already known that Manafort did work for the Ukraine.

    You think this is suspicious and a smoking gun but you ignore Huma Abedin, the Clinton Foundation (pay for play), actual documents that show Hillary supplying terrorists with guns, donations from radicals like George Soros, and email correspondence of him giving her recommendations and then 3 days later she follows them etc

    I also heard that Hillary and Obama worked as gardeners in the Middle East

    [​IMG]
     
    Blackened and TheComebackKid like this.
  17. klnOmega

    klnOmega Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2014
    Messages:
    9,552
    Likes Received:
    11,928
    This election is beyond fucked.

    Can we throw both these crooks in jail and just do Stein vs. Johnson for the general?
     
  18. OverCoronavirus Pressure

    OverCoronavirus Pressure I don't think you ready for this jelly

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    61,782
    Likes Received:
    95,214
    Location:
    5/7/89 Grateful Dead show, Frost amphitheatre
    I'm not so much a Hillary supporter as a Trump hater.
    And if we're going by what *appears like it might be true*, I'll take corrupt but competent over dangerously stupid and rash any day of the week and twice on Election Day.
     
    JadeOwl and Cooz like this.
  19. ucunc156

    ucunc156 Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2009
    Messages:
    11,411
    Likes Received:
    1,446
    Location:
    Cincinnati, OH
    Yeah I don't understand why this is a story. I commented in the general thread, that its well known that manafort has worked with/for dictators and strong men. The fact that he got paid to do so is completely unsurprising unless I'm missing something?
     
    Anung Un Rama and panamaican like this.
  20. Fawlty

    Fawlty Memesy were the borogroves Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2015
    Messages:
    40,107
    Likes Received:
    80,884
    Location:
    War Room Lounge
    If it's such a non-issue, it's interesting that Manafort issued a denial.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.