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No... I am not one of those people. I just provided you a long list of exact quotes and actions of Democrats and violence and this is all you got?
That list had a whole bunch of b******* in it and a whole bunch of nobodies too. And comparing those nobodies to Donald Trump who systematically practices double speak to incite hatred, chaos and division and who lies through his teeth constantly and who slanders is completely disingenuous of you.

There has been no president in my lifetime who's come anywhere near close to being as despicable, crass, crude, bullying, dishonest, and divisive as Trump and you just can't make a case otherwise and be an honest person.

I also noticed you didn't list an equivalent list for Republicans who say despicable s*** and since you included Snoop Dogg in your list, I would like to add Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones to the record!!!

lol.
 
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No he doesn't. You're either wildly out of context or just making shit up. You're like the clowns quoting him saying he wants to be a dictator. Have you read or listened to the full quote? Or are you just cherry picking a sentence?
He has stated clearly for all, even when Hannity was trying to get him to take it back and say he did not mean it, that he in fact does plan to be a dictator.

That is a factually true statement. Nothing made up.
 
Many have already pled guilty. Besides for the ones out of this group of freaks:

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84 of the fake electors have been charged (as of a few weeks ago, it might be more now). Some have pled guilty, been given immunity deals in order to testify etc, etc.
But ...but @Bullitt68 told me that is the same as someone contesting certain things in court over elections.

WTF???
 
But ...but @Bullitt68 told me that is the same as someone contesting certain things in court over elections.

WTF???
Well, when you look at how many members of Trump's entourage are convicted criminals now vs. how many of Hillary's are, the only conclusion I can reach is...the courts have TDS! Even the judges personally appointed by Trump. Horrible disease!
 
Well, when you look at how many members of Trump's entourage are convicted criminals now vs. how many of Hillary's are, the only conclusion I can reach is...the courts have TDS! Even the judges personally appointed by Trump. Horrible disease!
Yeah i proposed someone create a venn diagram of all Trumps criminality. Imagine the circles :

- All the people in Trump's first campaign staff who ended up convicted
- All the people in Trump's first Administration who ended up convicted
- All the Trump businesses found guilty of frauds
- All the Trump lawyers found guilty of crimes and/or disbarred

All meeting in the center with Trump, himself being the link between them all, and his own felony conviction to boot.
 
I'm not against that but you're quite uncharitable to me so I don't think its likely and I'm skeptical you're interested in anything of the sort.

Based on what? Based on the way that BFoe and I were able to come to a point of mutual understanding through reasonable conversation? I've already demonstrated my good faith. You've only demonstrated your bad faith. What you trade in is called sophistry. It's been annoying for thousands of years. It's still annoying.

This is you trying to win an argument on a minor technical point while missing the forest for the trees.

No, it's me telling you that arguing a different point than the one that I made is not arguing the point that I made. Again, what you're doing is called sophistry, and I have no interest in it.

You don't even contest that but instead try to retreat to this semantic argument which is telling.

Telling of what? Of what I told you when I pointed out that one could get wrapped up in a semantic battle but that it was not necessary to do so?

Now, if you want to counter my point with a charge of pedantry, that the semantics of "contesting" and "overturning" and what have you is irrelevant to the question of whether what specifically Trump did was right or wrong, legal or illegal, good for the country or bad for the country, I'm already on record saying that his actions were Nixon-esque and absolutely wrong/illegal/bad for the country. Once again, it'd appear that we're in agreement, yet you're so intent on combating me...which, I might add, proves my point about anti-Trumpers being so fanatical as to alienate those who would otherwise be allies, which is a problem of rhetoric, which was my original point to which you took such intense umbrage.

What if anything remains for me to address?

Did you even read that part?

My intention is to push back against the idea that singling out Trump as a uniquely unfit candidate is wrong and rhetorically ineffective. I think its both true and should figure as a core part of the campaign against him.

I know this already. It's why you picked this fight. I don't care what you do, though. I've accepted that nothing that I say will change what you think or how you act. That's not why you're here and that's fine. If you want to keep banging your head against the wall, go to it. Just don't pick fights with people who suggest that banging one's head against the wall is not advisable and then deny that you're banging your head against the wall.

To use your own argument against you, why doesn't BFoe liking my posts give you any pause as to whether or not I'm making a fair case here? You respect his take right?

I respect him. He's proven to be capable of introspection, of adjusting himself and his tone, of reassessing his opinion of me through honest and intelligent conversation. And I've demonstrated the same thing. Our exchange is what it should look like when mature people who don't share the same views converse. I'm not going to extend the same courtesy to you because you haven't earned that courtesy from me. Remember, again: You started this. You picked a fight with me. I don't care why, but you did, and so it's not incumbent upon me to like you or respect you based on the way that you've conducted yourself thus far. You'll have to do something different for me to see and treat you different. Can you find anything that you've said that you think is evidence of a misunderstanding, or a strawman, or sophistry? Could you even point to a single part of a single post about which you'd say that you expressed yourself poorly? Give me something. Anything. Show me that you're not just arguing for the sake of arguing, that you're actually interested in understanding what I'm saying. If you can't do this, then don't bother responding, because this will be the last time that I respond to any of your posts.

There are a number of States, as well a Federal investigation now starting to charge Trump and those in his campaign with a strategic plan to upset the electoral count, as part of a bigger plan to force the election to the HOuse in a Contingent election, in which the republicans win, if they all vote together.

Trump may escape these cases thanks to the SC giving him wide immunity, but the others will not.,

If/When they are all found guilty of these actions, as the evidence is immense thus far, that we have had glimpses of, will you say you were duped prior?

"Duped" about what, and prior to what? Did you mean to quote me here?

The equivalency does not exist.

Yes, it does, but I see what's tripping you up.

That is like saying because people disagree in debate it is the same thing as disagreeing by trying to assault someone. What Trump attempted to do,as the Commander in Chief, is one of the highest offenses conceived by the founders and NO, nothing else done by other POTUS prior, in recent history or even a much wider lens does NOT equate.

Look at the part that I've bolded and underlined. Similar ≠ Same. Equivalent ≠ Identical. Assuming you're not being intentionally obtuse just to argue, try rereading what I've said with these distinctions in mind and see if you still can't wrap your brain around any of it.
 
he says as Trump screams about the evil Haitians recruited to work in Springfield starting in 2017, when Trump was POTUS.

The Brown Menace. A continuing tale by Donald Trump.

2016 GE - MExicans are brown people and rapist and are coming for you. Vote Trump to save you .

2018 MT - Caravans of brown people are coming for you. Vote for us and we will save you.

2020 GE - Black and brown people like ANTIFA and who are like Corey Booker will move into your suburbs. Vote for us and we will stop them

2024 GE - Black and brown people at the border, black and brown people in Springfield. Vote for us and we will stop them.

all that these people have to offer america is lies, fear, division, and hate.
 
he says as Trump screams about the evil Haitians recruited to work in Springfield starting in 2017, when Trump was POTUS.

The Brown Menace. A continuing tale by Donald Trump.

2016 GE - MExicans are brown people and rapist and are coming for you. Vote Trump to save you .

2018 MT - Caravans of brown people are coming for you. Vote for us and we will save you.

2020 GE - Black and brown people like ANTIFA and who are like Corey Booker will move into your suburbs. Vote for us and we will stop them

2024 GE - Black and brown people at the border, black and brown people in Springfield. Vote for us and we will stop them.

Every single one of those out of context and framed to spin your TDS narrative.
 

JD Vance is now the least popular VP candidate in modern history – even below Sarah Palin

Polling averages show that JD Vance has a -9 net popularity rating, worse than Sarah Palin’s low in 2008​

Trump is easy to make fun of. Vance is easy to make fun of. And neither of them are likeable, even a little bit, unless you are racist or xenophobic. And neither should have any level of power.​

So there is that.​

What are the chances that trump and Walz both win their elections
 
Doocy certainly lives up to his name sometimes, but I want all of the press corps. to be antagonistic towards the White House's PR talking head.
 
Based on what? Based on the way that BFoe and I were able to come to a point of mutual understanding through reasonable conversation? I've already demonstrated my good faith. You've only demonstrated your bad faith. What you trade in is called sophistry. It's been annoying for thousands of years. It's still annoying.



No, it's me telling you that arguing a different point than the one that I made is not arguing the point that I made. Again, what you're doing is called sophistry, and I have no interest in it.



Telling of what? Of what I told you when I pointed out that one could get wrapped up in a semantic battle but that it was not necessary to do so?



Did you even read that part?



I know this already. It's why you picked this fight. I don't care what you do, though. I've accepted that nothing that I say will change what you think or how you act. That's not why you're here and that's fine. If you want to keep banging your head against the wall, go to it. Just don't pick fights with people who suggest that banging one's head against the wall is not advisable and then deny that you're banging your head against the wall.



I respect him. He's proven to be capable of introspection, of adjusting himself and his tone, of reassessing his opinion of me through honest and intelligent conversation. And I've demonstrated the same thing. Our exchange is what it should look like when mature people who don't share the same views converse. I'm not going to extend the same courtesy to you because you haven't earned that courtesy from me. Remember, again: You started this. You picked a fight with me. I don't care why, but you did, and so it's not incumbent upon me to like you or respect you based on the way that you've conducted yourself thus far. You'll have to do something different for me to see and treat you different. Can you find anything that you've said that you think is evidence of a misunderstanding, or a strawman, or sophistry? Could you even point to a single part of a single post about which you'd say that you expressed yourself poorly? Give me something. Anything. Show me that you're not just arguing for the sake of arguing, that you're actually interested in understanding what I'm saying. If you can't do this, then don't bother responding, because this will be the last time that I respond to any of your posts.



"Duped" about what, and prior to what? Did you mean to quote me here?



Yes, it does, but I see what's tripping you up.



Look at the part that I've bolded and underlined. Similar ≠ Same. Equivalent ≠ Identical. Assuming you're not being intentionally obtuse just to argue, try rereading what I've said with these distinctions in mind and see if you still can't wrap your brain around any of it.
Captain Pedantic requires I point out to you that equivalent=same even if it doesn't equal identical (depending upon context) and it should be self-evident that similar does not equal any of the three. 2+2 is the same as 6-2 and they are equivalent expressions even if they aren't identical.

Just sayin'. Please carry on with this pointless back and forth.
 
That list had a whole bunch of b******* in it and a whole bunch of nobodies too. And comparing those nobodies to Donald Trump who systematically practices double speak to incite hatred, chaos and division and who through his teeth constantly and who slanders is completely disingenuous of you.

There has been no president in my lifetime who's come anywhere near close to being as despicable, crass, crude, bullying, dishonest, and divisive as Trump and you just can't make a case otherwise and be an honest person.

I also noticed you didn't list an equivalent list for Republicans who say despicable s*** and since you included Snoop Dogg in your list, I would like to add Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones to the record!!!

lol.

Do you find anything on the list legitimate? Which ones? Start with those you don't dispute.

Let's get specific if you want to trash the list.
 
He has stated clearly for all, even when Hannity was trying to get him to take it back and say he did not mean it, that he in fact does plan to be a dictator.

That is a factually true statement. Nothing made up.

Share the video. Let's here it all in context. You know it's out there?
 
Do you find anything on the list legitimate? Which ones? Start with those you don't dispute.

Let's get specific if you want to trash the list.
Well that's the thing. It's an obfuscation list of exaggeration's nobodies and some important ones.

Since we're talking about Trump and a president, why don't you list the ones from a president? Otherwise this is just a war of who can find the most s***** things said between Democrats and Republicans. And frankly if we went down that road which I'm not interested in doing the Republicans will f****** lose man!!! And they would lose by a landslide.


So let's just do presidents since we're talking about a republican president.
 
Captain Pedantic requires I point out to you that equivalent=same even if it doesn't equal identical (depending upon context) and it should be self-evident that similar does not equal any of the three. 2+2 is the same as 6-2 and they are equivalent expressions even if they aren't identical.

Just sayin'. Please carry on with this pointless back and forth.

I'm allergic to math. I work with language, not numbers. I'm more comfortable in the realm of dogs and wolves being similar but not the same, and of canines being equivalent but not identical. We're equipped with the ability to make distinctions between things, and our language is full of useful distinctions that have been made between things, so I opt to make use of that ability and of the words that facilitate it.

How's that for pedantry, Captain Pedantic 😁
 
I'm allergic to math. I work with language, not numbers. I'm more comfortable in the realm of dogs and wolves being similar but not the same, and of canines being equivalent but not identical. We're equipped with the ability to make distinctions between things, and our language is full of useful distinctions that have been made between things, so I opt to make use of that ability and of the words that facilitate it.

How's that for pedantry, Captain Pedantic 😁

lol there's nothing pedantic about this other than it being unnecessarily wordy :)
 
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"Duped" about what, and prior to what? Did you mean to quote me here?
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Yes, but i can see you struggle to even follow your own points and that is because they make no sense.

You are duped by talking points.

Yes, it does, but I see what's tripping you up.
I am not the one tripping. That is you as you continually lose your train of thought.
Look at the part that I've bolded and underlined. Similar ≠ Same. Equivalent ≠ Identical. Assuming you're not being intentionally obtuse just to argue, try rereading what I've said with these distinctions in mind and see if you still can't wrap your brain around any of it.
I am not being obtuse. I am just not being dumb like you are.

Those things are just not comparable, same, similar, equivalent or identical. None of those fit.

Trumps inner circle all being indicted and facing serious criminal charges is all the proof you need of how they cannot compare.

you trying to draw any form of comparison between a regular court challenge of an election result or any of the normal course type election issues, IS NOT in any way to be compared to arranging for fake printed elector certificates, electors sent to hide out in State legislatures and the riot encouraged to stop the count.

Only a simpleton tries to draw a comparison. Sorry.
 
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