Sebastien Farina: savate vs kickboxing. good footwork and combinations

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  1. Jimmy Jazz

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    what do you think of his style? he's in the white and his style is signature savate. He moves out of the way with his kicks and knocks Steele of his legs several times. I also like how he chains together his punches and kicks. I really enjoy his footwork, what do you think of it?
     
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    It is like international rules kickboxing except you can sidekick the kneecaps right?
     
  3. Jimmy Jazz

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    savate has those rules, yes. except you cant round kick with the shin, you use the boot. However, this is international kickboxing rules in this fight.
     
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    You can hit with the upper part of the shoe, making shin contact allowed. Savate is evolving, and many "savate conservatives" critisize it, blaming savate from becoming "kickboxing with shoes". In fact, in combat, you can notice that savaters hit with shins too... and the ref doesn't really react.

    Here is a good example of Savate fight:

     
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    I've always liked Savate & it is one of the styles I would have probably initially trained if it was available around my area. Another good example of Savate vs. Muay Thai was Francois Pennacchio vs. Ramon Dekker. I can't remember exactly but it may have been under a rule set more favorable towards the Savate stylist but it was a good fight.
     
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    @Borass

    At 1:23 3:03 the ref stop it for kicks with the shin, so i guess when they see it, they call it.

    @Vil7

    I don't know what the rules are, but no knees, no elbows, no clinch... You can't really say it's MT vs Savate.
    But it was i nice fight nevertheless. Nice low counters from Pennacchio to Dekker's heavy mid kicks.
     
  8. Borass

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    It really depends, but more and more, ref don't say anything about it...
     
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    Yeah it would have been interesting if they added the clinchwork and knees in the rules. It might have changed the result completely.
     
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    I don't see often side kicks to the mid/high in savate, mostly the low ones. Any of you guys know why? In TKD for example is one of the basic kicks, and can be very effective...
     
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  11. Borass

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    Because more and more savate is influenced by kickboxing ... Footwork is less bouncy. Middle and high side kicks are not the best choice in a combo and considered as "old school kicks".
    Side kick is called "Chassé latéral" and is mainly used by old school style savaters.
     
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    Ok, thanks.
     
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    Interesting style.

    And possibly the West's only "autochthonous" kickfighting style ?

    Anyways in essence I don't see a huge difference between Savate and 80's shiny pants american kickboxing.
     
  14. Borass

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    In savate, kicks must be very chambered like in Karate. That's why sometimes, it may look like american kickboxing. But in fact, that's really different: shoes and low-kicks.
     
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    Ramon Dekkers style is not anywhere near a traditional Nak Muay, you could say he is more a kick boxer.
     

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