Scumbag training partners

[SlampageJackson]

Now this new guy came into our gym recently and seemed nice and polite, but when it comes to rolling is a complete scumbag. Now flashback 2 week ago where i injured my wrist quite badly, i was out for week and a half and today is my first day of full on drilling and rolling. I get him as a partner we do some drills and he seems to never let me practice the drills, which im somewhat okay with since hes new and I understand the basics of the moves we reviewed.

Now here is when he becomes a full on scumbag, I have my wrist heavily wrapped and have a Velcro brace on. My mindset is, Im going to practice some moves go slow on him since hes new. I take him down taking my time passing the guard and the first thing he does is both of his hands YANK on my wrist, me being the somewhat nice guy, i dismiss it expecting it to be an accident. Im still in his guard trying to make him do the sweep we learned and AGAIN starts yanking on my wrist! So I think alright this is getting annoying, i pass, mount him, then armbar. So we go again, i pull guard trying to mix it up. FIRST THING he does is start squeezing my wrist and twisting at this point the instructor is like "Take it easy..." confused as I am as to why he keeps going for my wrist.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? I really don't want to be mean but I seriously can't wait till im 100% and steamroll him badly (actually don't care if it makes me a bad guy). Im a white belt btw

 

[Peep**]

I know all that velcro and extra layers makes your wrist injury obvious, but have you told him directly? I mean, for all we know... he may be very stupid, yo.

 

[redaxe]

 

[SlampageJackson]

I know all that velcro and extra layers makes your wrist injury obvious, but have you told him directly? I mean, for all we know... he may be very stupid, yo.

Yea thats the funniest part. I was drilling with him and he kept asking if my wrist was okay so im positive he knew...

 

[Peep**]

Well just put effort into avoiding him next time. I'm also assuming that this is a strictly a BJJ only gym.

But, if it's MT and/or Boxing... just punch him in the mouth when you're sparring

 

[nefti]

Knee on belly have been known to cure many ailments, especially douchbaggery

 

[Tru2DaGameJ21]

just let him know you have a injury and for him to watch out.. he seems like one of those guys who take gym losses hard and doesn't like to lose, so even when rolling 50% hell be going 100% :/ I usually try to stay away from people with huge ego's

 

[Mumrik]

Communication, dude...

Nothing prevents you from starting the roll by telling him to lay off the injured wrist and that you need a slow roll. Nothing prevents you from verbally reminding him when he goes for your wrist either.

 

[thewhiteSRR]

you didn't say anything?

 

[NastyNugs]

Why be such a nice guy, I understand your personality may be such but when people start playing dirty it is like an open invitation to use your "dirty" moves. Most people will learn not to mess with you when you turn it up and put their A$$ in the fire.

 

[KampfHund]

Why be such a nice guy, I understand your personality may be such but when people start playing dirty it is like an open invitation to use your "dirty" moves. Most people will learn not to mess with you when you turn it up and put their A$$ in the fire.

what a stupid response: escalating the situation with 'dirty' moves just ends up with people potentially getting seriously injured.

Besides, yanking a wrist isn't a dirty move, he's just being a douche; probably because he's out of his depth.

 

[Dudixon]

An example of minor duchebaggery from my gym:
There's a guy that when you drill something 3 for 3, he will not stop until you tell him to change. He'll use you like a dummy. I mean how hard is it to count to three? One, two, potato... Dude did that on numerous occasions. Now I try not to get pared up with him or tell him straight away to change.

 

[Byrd]

IMO, since you are a white, and you say he is new, then he probably doesnt know any better. No reason to automatically jump on the he must be a douchebag wagon. People at our gym constantly have things wrapped and we all try to watch out for injuries, but new guys dont understand so give him the benifit of the doubt that he is rolling too hard with your injury and tell him to take it easy.

Probably just trying to do his best. BTW, what technique were you working on I didnt catch that if you said so, and if you are rolling hard enough to do take downs, pass guard, mount and armbar, then you and your wrist should be able handle it.

 

[KGB313]

Now this new guy came into our gym recently and seemed nice and polite, but when it comes to rolling is a complete scumbag. Now flashback 2 week ago where i injured my wrist quite badly, i was out for week and a half and today is my first day of full on drilling and rolling. I get him as a partner we do some drills and he seems to never let me practice the drills, which im somewhat okay with since hes new and I understand the basics of the moves we reviewed.

Now here is when he becomes a full on scumbag, I have my wrist heavily wrapped and have a Velcro brace on. My mindset is, Im going to practice some moves go slow on him since hes new. I take him down taking my time passing the guard and the first thing he does is both of his hands YANK on my wrist, me being the somewhat nice guy, i dismiss it expecting it to be an accident. Im still in his guard trying to make him do the sweep we learned and AGAIN starts yanking on my wrist! So I think alright this is getting annoying, i pass, mount him, then armbar. So we go again, i pull guard trying to mix it up. FIRST THING he does is start squeezing my wrist and twisting at this point the instructor is like "Take it easy..." confused as I am as to why he keeps going for my wrist.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? I really don't want to be mean but I seriously can't wait till im 100% and steamroll him badly (actually don't care if it makes me a bad guy). Im a white belt btw

1) Squash that "I'm gonna smash him when I'm better" nonsense right now. The guy is a new white belt, and he's just trying to train. Chances are he doesn't even know that he's doing anything wrong. Any focus you put on smashing him is a distraction from learning and getting better.

2) Communicate. Got an injury? Explain it to him before the roll. He keeps going for it? Say something again. Say "Hey!" each time he keeps going for it. If he's still not getting the message, switch partners.

3) Consider resting the injury if it's that bad. People are going to hand fight, and unless you're not using the hand at all it's silly to expect them to simply leave it completely alone. If light contact is that painful, rest it.

4) Go with a more experienced partner if you're not 100%. I never go with a newbie white belt if I'm nursing an injury. New guys tend to be spazzy and overly competitive. That sort of behavior tends to inadvertently cause/aggravate injuries. If I'm hurt, I want a blue belt or at least a white belt with a few stripes that I know is technical and methodical as opposed to Spazzfest 2012.

5) How do you mean he doesn't let you drill? Is he needing to be walked through the drills and doing them slow? Or are you saying he is being resistant and shutting down the move you're drilling? The former is perfectly okay for a newbie (you just need to make sure you get a couple reps for yourself), the latter is simply being a bad partner.

6) Sounds like the guy was trying to work an armdrag, armbar, or possibly an omoplata setup from his closed guard. If he's new, chances are his arsenal is very limited, and he may not be comfortable applying the move on opposite sides yet. Or worst-case scenario, he has no idea what he's doing and is just trying to control your hands/wrists because he doesn't know what else he should be trying to do. I certainly wouldn't jump to the conclusion that he was out to hurt you or trying to target your injury.

 

[Dirty Holt]

If you are trying to change lanes without your blinker, dont get pissed when someone wont move over for you. Either be assertive and tell him to stop, or dont complain about it. Its your health, you gotta be the one who is responsible for it.

 

[MrCreosote]

Knee on belly have been known to cure many ailments, especially douchbaggery

LOL this is sig worthy.

 

[Gregolian]

Now this new guy came into our gym recently and seemed nice and polite, but when it comes to rolling is a complete scumbag. Now flashback 2 week ago where i injured my wrist quite badly, i was out for week and a half and today is my first day of full on drilling and rolling. I get him as a partner we do some drills and he seems to never let me practice the drills, which im somewhat okay with since hes new and I understand the basics of the moves we reviewed.

Now here is when he becomes a full on scumbag, I have my wrist heavily wrapped and have a Velcro brace on. My mindset is, Im going to practice some moves go slow on him since hes new. I take him down taking my time passing the guard and the first thing he does is both of his hands YANK on my wrist, me being the somewhat nice guy, i dismiss it expecting it to be an accident. Im still in his guard trying to make him do the sweep we learned and AGAIN starts yanking on my wrist! So I think alright this is getting annoying, i pass, mount him, then armbar. So we go again, i pull guard trying to mix it up. FIRST THING he does is start squeezing my wrist and twisting at this point the instructor is like "Take it easy..." confused as I am as to why he keeps going for my wrist.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? I really don't want to be mean but I seriously can't wait till im 100% and steamroll him badly (actually don't care if it makes me a bad guy). Im a white belt btw

We have a guy like that in my MMA class that just says "fuck the drills" we were being told and starts trying to go for Americanas and shit while you have him in your guard and doesn't allow others to try the guard passes we have learned and stuff.

Since it's MMA most of the vet guys have 7oz gloves on or if we can't afford that maybe 4. We have been told that we can throw some GnP (not to the head) just to simulate it... so, whenever he does that to anyone he starts eating hard liver shots.

That said, we all have told him to stop doing it and he hasn't fucking listened.

 

[whipyourasstyle]

Everyone who has trained for more than a few years has a method for dealing with spazzes...

For me I tend to pick one sub and do it over and over and over and over.... Same sub...

Eventually they get frustrated and ask "hey how are you doing that??"

Then and only then when they are ready to listen you give them the "don't be a d-bag anymore" talk

 

[OldManbjj]

what a stupid response: escalating the situation with 'dirty' moves just ends up with people potentially getting seriously injured.

Besides, yanking a wrist isn't a dirty move, he's just being a douche; probably because he's out of his depth.

What? Sometimes you have to lay the law down if someone is being an inconsiderate asshole. I don't know what gym you go to but we don't cry to our coach when someone plays dirty. We police ourselves unless someone starts punching and kicking of course.

And wrist locks among training partners is totally borderline dirty bro. Going after an injured wrist is total disrespect.

 

[KampfHund]

Everyone who has trained for more than a few years has a method for dealing with spazzes...

For me I tend to pick one sub and do it over and over and over and over.... Same sub...

Eventually they get frustrated and ask "hey how are you doing that??"

Then and only then when they are ready to listen you give them the "don't be a d-bag anymore" talk

I prefer choking them as far as picking a sub goes; it's generally the safest against noobs who think tapping = losing. I'd rather go off and get some water while a guy wakes up than sit there listening to him scream when his elbow dislocates..

..and if you get bored you can just take mount and smother them. I always chuckle when someone taps to having my sweaty rashguard pressed over their face.