Saudi Arabia's policies of intolerance and extremism.

[Rod1]

I thought you were going to say women....

Money gets you women, women dont get you money.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

We should've nuked this dung heap off the map years ago but we can't becaUe money is involved.

Our powers that be have sold their souls for contracts. Human rights. Lmao what a crock of shit that noise is huh?

We pick and choose based solely off of currency. And to think Cuba is still the odd man out lol.

 

[jimbob27]

lol @ this OP.

He was just asking a question about something he didn't know about. Sure sherdog probably isn't the best place to ask about world politics, but at least in this thread we've managed to give him pretty much the correct answers.

 

[europe1]

But, but, but.... the Saudi Ambassador of France took part in the Charlie Hebdo protests! Dosen't that mean that they are the good guys? I think you are just misunderstanding them.

 

[SammyPops]

He was just asking a question about something he didn't know about. Sure sherdog probably isn't the best place to ask about world politics, but at least in this thread we've managed to give him pretty much the correct answers.

You sure about that?

 

[44nutman]

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

lol haven't seen this one in a while

 

[Arcturus]

it's not just oil, people from Saudi Arabia/UAE spend a crapload of money when they visit the UK & US

 

[MicroBrew]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1158244/federal-minister-accuses-saudi-govt-of-destabilising-muslim-world

Pakistani politician points out the elephant in the room . Credit to the guy for sticking his neck out and naming the biggest promoter of extremist Islam. In fairness, even before Saudi Wahhabi indoctrination, Islam in much of the SubCon is rooted in violent destruction of pre-Islamic culture.

ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Inter-provincial Coordination (IPC) Riaz Hussain Pirzada has accused the Saudi government of creating instability across the Muslim world, including Pakistan, through distribution of money for promoting its ideology.

 

[Zankou]

Too little too late, the Saudis helped ruin what is now the failed state of Pakistan.

 

[MicroBrew]

After Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif requested " clarification " from the Pakistani minister who criticized Saudi, said Minister now says his words were " twisted " .

Gotten to....

http://www.dawn.com/news/1158486/censured-minister-says-statement-regarding-saudi-arabia-was-twisted

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"Sought clarification"

That phrase must be a central tenet of diplomacy 101 . It is such a tired phrase that diplomats/politicians trot out all the time when faced with rather uncomfortable statements from colleagues, allies and adversaries.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/nation...e-of-pirzada-s-statement-against-saudi-arabia

 

[Toastytoy]

I don't think we should care about the rights on people in other countries. If the government works with us, its no bushiness of ours how they run their own country.

 

[MicroBrew]

Recent article from the Washington Post referencing a website focusing on the MiddleEast.

How Saudi Arabia’s harsh legal punishments compare to the Islamic State’s

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I must say though I've never heard of anyone actually being stoned to death in Saudi.

 

[AlucardNatasrd]

Recent article from the Washington Post referencing a website focusing on the MiddleEast.

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I must say though I've never heard of anyone actually being stoned to death in Saudi.

Well, admittedly: What's problematic is not that the Moslems punish people harshly, but that they punish people without justice, and do so against other people aggressively, and are trying to overthrow our governments to institute these laws.

I have zero problems with what the Saudis do in their own country, and I have no moral objection to any of these punishments inherently.

 

[AgentOrange24]

A nation can be friendly with another nation without agreeing with their internal politics.

European nations agreed on this roughly 400 years ago at Westphalia. The idea that one nation should shun another for moral or humanitarian reasons is a very modern invention.

 

[RafailNadull]

A nation can be friendly with another nation without agreeing with their internal politics.

European nations agreed on this roughly 400 years ago at Westphalia. The idea that one nation should shun another for moral or humanitarian reasons is a very modern invention.

It is used to garner public support for missions that further national self-interest. Rest assured that concern about how another country treats its people isn't overly important to any big decision maker.

 

[Hitman81]

As much as we might disagree with some of their customs at least they have their shit together. They're not a total fuck up a country that needs someone to intervene.

 

[Ruprecht]

Sounds like the first round really messed him up...

Saudi Arabia to again postpone flogging of blogger Raef Badawi: Amnesty

Rights group Amnesty International says Saudi Arabia has been advised to postpone the flogging of blogger Raef Badawi, whose case has sparked international criticism, for a second week on medical grounds.

"The planned flogging of Raef Badawi will be suspended this Friday after a medical committee assessed that he should not undergo a second round of lashes on health grounds," the London-based watchdog said in a statement.
Badawi has been sentenced to 1,000 lashes for insulting Islam and is serving a 10-year jail term.
The 30-year-old received the first 50 lashes of his sentence outside a mosque in the Red Sea city of Jeddah on January 9.
He was expected to undergo 20 flogging sessions to complete the punishment but last Friday his wife said the second round had been delayed on medical grounds.
Ensaf Haidar, who has sought asylum with her children in Canada, also said her husband's case has been referred to the supreme court, possibly paving the way for an appeal.
Amnesty said a committee of several doctors carried out a series of tests at a Jeddah hospital on Wednesday and recommended against a new session of caning.
But "there is no way of knowing whether the Saudi Arabian authorities will disregard the medical advice and allow the flogging to go ahead," Said Boumedouha, Amnesty's deputy Middle East and North Africa director, said in the statement.
Amnesty called for the blogger's immediate and unconditional release, "instead of continuing to torment Raef Badawi by dragging out his ordeal".
Badawi co-founded the now-banned Saudi Liberal Network along with women's rights campaigner Suad al-Shammari, who was also accused of insulting Islam and arrested last October.
The charges against Badawi were brought after his group criticised clerics and the kingdom's notorious religious police, who have been accused of a heavy-handed enforcement of sharia Islamic law.
The international reaction to Badawi's punishment even spread into the world of professional football this week, when German politicians criticised Bundesliga giants Bayern Munich for playing a friendly match in Saudi Arabia while criticism of the kingdom's rights record swirls.
On Tuesday, Austria's chancellor threatened to withdraw support for a Saudi-financed religious dialogue centre unless it condemns Badawi's public flogging.
The same day, in an open letter published by British newspaper the Independent, 18 Nobel prize winners called on Saudi academics to condemn Badawi's punishment.
The United States, Sweden, and Reporters Without Borders (RSF) have denounced the flogging as a horrific form of punishment, saying Badawi was exercising his right to freedom of expression.
Canada has also condemned the sentence and called for a pardon.
UN human rights chief Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein has urged ailing Saudi King Abdullah to pardon Badawi, saying flogging is "cruel and inhuman" and prohibited under international human rights law.