Social SAT To add ‘Adversity Score’ to Capture Social and Economic Background

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  1. Richmma80

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    Asians will just go to other schools who don't participate in this bullshit and the companies who are looking for the best employees will hire the graduates from these schools over the ones with affirmative action, jr. They're trying to skirt the law in order to get more black and brown over white and Asian.
     
  2. EradiatedHaggis

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    And those statistics start to blend when economic factors are implemented...this is why even Republicans demanded it.

    <{cruzshake}>
     
  3. Leagon

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    Did you read the OP? They aren't changing anyone's score.
     
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  4. Headkicktoleg

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    I made the OP lol.
     
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  5. lifelessheap

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    the NBA isn't a meritocracy? Lmao. Never go full retard.
     
  6. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Correct, getting drafted into the NBA is not a meritocracy.

    Take your own advice.
     
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  7. Leagon

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    So you didn't read the article you linked to?
     
  8. Letssnuggle

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    I don’t believe a certain skin color means people are stupid. That’s why I’m against this.
     
  9. Headkicktoleg

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    No shit. Its another score so they don't even have to look at the kids with good scores before they throw them out for my being poor
     
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  10. ineverpost

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    Education system is bullshit anyways. Giving everyone a college degree makes the degree worthless and employers already realize this.
     
  11. Leagon

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    They aren't changing anyone's score, though. You gave a bad example.
     
  12. Letssnuggle

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    The core issue goes like this:

    you think black kids are stupid.
     
  13. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    As expected, the College Board clams up when people ask for transparency in regards to the new methodology.

    Asian Americans fear the SAT ‘adversity score’ will harm their kids. The College Board won’t talk to them.

    CHRISTOPHER TREMOGLIE - UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA | JUNE 13, 2019

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    The maker of the Scholastic Aptitude Test is silent on criticisms that its recent changes – intended to level the socioeconomic playing field in admissions – will hurt Asian-American children in particular.

    A spokesperson for the College Board emphasized to The College Fix that its new “environmental context dashboard” is not an “adversity score,” a term he attributed to The Wall Street Journal. He issued a lengthy explanation of what the ECD does and does not do.

    But the spokesperson provided a generic response to the widespread criticism the change has provoked, when The Fix asked specifically for its response to the Asian American Coalition for Education. He has not responded to a followup request.

    Yukong Zhao, president of the coalition, confirmed to The Fix in an email Wednesday that the College Board had yet to respond to its May 31 letter outlining concerns.

    The implementation of adversity scores, the popular slang term for the ECD, “will result in grave harms to Asian-American children who are already punished by racial preferences in college admissions,” the coalition wrote in a press release last week.

    The same group has also foughtHarvard University’s use of “holistic admissions,” claiming the Ivy League school sets an informal rough cap on Asian-American admissions. A federal judge is expected to rule soon on whether Harvard’s system discriminates against those applicants.

    The ECD has been controversial since the College Board piloted it on about 50 schools in recent years, though early critics faulted its exclusion of race from consideration. Harvard is one of them, according to The Harvard Crimson. (Inside Higher Ed labeled it an “adversity index” in 2017, with no apparent protest from the College Board.)

    If fully implemented, it would reinterpret academic achievement based on the alleged challenges that applicants are presumed to have faced. The College Board plans to expand its availability to 150 schools this year and all colleges next year.

    Though more recent criticisms of the ECD include its potential for fraudand the opacity of its criteria, critics generally object to its likelihood to penalize students who perform well academically – a group that is disproportionately Asian American.

    ‘A double penalty on Asian-American children from working class families’

    The Asian American Coalition on Education doesn’t have a previous relationship with the College Board or other provider of student performance tests, Wenyuan Wu, director of administration, told The Fix in an email.

    But it’s made its views on college admissions known for years, going back to a 2015 regulatory complaint against Harvard. The coalition agrees with most Americans, as judged by polling, that merit should be the sole determinant of admission, with no role for race, ethnicity, gender, legacy or athletic ability, Wu said.

    It has long supported socioeconomic affirmative action that leaves open “a reasonable percentage of admissions slots for certain eligible students from poorer neighborhoods,” she continued.

    The coalition actually wants an even more “holistic” evaluation process than Harvard and other elite schools use, Wu said. Certain skills should get greater weight depending on a student’s choice of study:

    For instance, we believe superb social/interpersonal skills constitute a crucial characteristic for students pursuing a business degree. In STEM majors, however, scientific rigor and logical thinking are more important qualities than social skills. In liberal arts, creativity should be valued.

    The so-called adversity score “could be a positive step toward replacing racial preferences in college admissions IF it is structured scientifically and according to fair yardsticks,” Wu wrote. But if “utilized on top of racial preferences,” the score will “impose a double penalty on Asian-American children from working class families,” she said.

    Because of their “relatively small size as a percentage of the general population,” Asian Americans are “bullied, harmed and sacrificed by many short-sighted politicians,” Wu said.



    These politicians “are unwilling to face and solve the root cause behind a lack of racial diversity in higher education, which is failing K-12 education in too many undeserved communities,” it wrote. “They treat Asian-Americans as scapegoats to advance their political agenda, which is mostly tied to winning votes without solving real issues.”

    Wu warned the College Board and others to take Asian-American concerns seriously. “We are neither the silent minority nor the model minority,” she wrote:

    We think for ourselves, want what’s best for our children and this nation as a whole— a fair and competitive education system. We subscribe to what is logically, morally and legally right. WE ARE NOBODY’S PAWN.

    The coalition’s May 31 letter accuses the College Board of failure to consult with the Asian-American community and asks the organization to turn over its “methodology” for the ECD.

    The new system effectively punishes families who “endure tremendous hardships and make great sacrifices so that they can move to good school districts and send their kids to good schools,” it continues. “Without any privileged background, these families practice the principles of resilience, financial prudence, family responsibilities, and hard-work [sic].”

    Any use of the ECD, even if “established scientifically,” should also be limited to “truly disadvantaged families” and not the “general population for utopian social engineering control.” Echoing fraud concerns, the letter warns that families who “intentionally change addresses” can game the system.

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/asian...eir-kids-the-college-board-wont-talk-to-them/
     
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  14. K-Bag

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    So if I identify as a black gay female I pretty much get a high score? Nice.
     
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  15. newerest

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    I can't believe people defend this tbh.

    Two students get the same score. Why should the fact that one student had more challenge (be it self imposed, or "the system") benefit them? If they have the same score they should BOTH be admitted or NEITHER.
     
  16. LogicalInsanity

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    Further proof of racism perpetrated by the New Left.

    and LOL at the racist assholes defending this. especially the Mod.
     
  17. The ScorpioN

    The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!"

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    Asians are high achievers because they benefit from white supremacy, so it's only fair to bridge gaps via very transparent and objective "adversity scores."
     
  18. Joe265

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    A fake test to get a fake education to assimilate you into a fake world. Then you have people running to defend the fakeness because that’s the only world they know.
     
  19. WhiteMousse

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    Hopefully I'll be dead by the time the affected students are implemented into the medical field's work force.

    If not I'm sure they'll help me along.
     
  20. LogicalInsanity

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    I know you're kidding but
    We do not benefit from "White Supremacy", whatever the fuck that term means anymore.
     
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