Sanders has been inspirational to me, when I needed it most

[IDL]

You can have him, no reasonable offer refused.

I would consider lending him out at negative interest rates.

 

[VivaRevolution]

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[bad seed]

ratjow will join you.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Rex, let's make this simple. Is partial ownership of the markets or means of production by the government socialism?

If it is, then we are a socialist country.

If it is not, then Democratic socialism, and socialism are not the same thing at all. They are barely related.

Rarely are things in life black and white. The United States, like most countries, has been hoodwinked into adopting some socialistic policies. The US is not a socialist country. Private industry is robust, though on the socialism continuum it is too far left for my taste.

We certainly need to reverse the tend towards socialism.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

ratjow will join you.

Disgusting. She's just doing it because the boys like Bernie. Will whore herself out to anyone if it'll get her IG likes. What a traitor to her sex.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Rarely are things in life black and white. The United States, like most countries, has been hoodwinked into adopting some socialistic policies. The US is not a socialist country. Private industry is robust, though on the socialism continuum it is too far left for my taste.

We certainly need to reverse the tend towards socialism.

Hello again Rex, I am all for meaningful exchanges of ideas, so I will give you another chance on the 2 questions I asked, that you chose to give a tangent answer to.

Can you give me an example of a candidate that is offering to keep things the same as their platform? If not than can you concede this is not a good rational you gave as an explanation for why Bernie is authentic?

Is partial government ownership of the markets socialism?

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Hello again Rex, I am all for meaningful exchanges of ideas, so I will give you another chance on the 2 questions I asked, that you chose to give a tangent answer to.

Can you give me an example of a candidate that is offering to keep things the same as their platform? If not than can you concede this is not a good rational you gave as an explanation for why Bernie is authentic?

Is partial government ownership of the markets socialism?

I can't even figure out what you're saying in that second paragraph. Are you asking who else is offering "something different" in this year's election? David Duke, for one. Some fringe lunatics, like the guy from the Communist Party of the United States. They're both running for President. Unless you mean something different. If so, clarify. Your wording is cryptic.

How about you define your terms of "partial government ownership"? Last I checked the US government does not own instruments or subjects of labor, so no, the US is not socialist. You're trying to do a reductio ad absurdum or something, and it's pretty lame. Bernie wants to fundamentally change this country into a socialist one. Implicit in that promise of transformation is that we are not currently socialist. And that's why you like him, isn't it? Promises something different?

 

[spin]

One doesn't have to profess to be a savior for others to treat him as such.


Just say no to hero worship.

 

[VivaRevolution]

I can't even figure out what you're saying in that second paragraph. Are you asking who else is offering "something different" in this year's election? David Duke, for one. Some fringe lunatics, like the guy from the Communist Party of the United States. They're both running for President. Unless you mean something different. If so, clarify. Your wording is cryptic.

How about you define your terms of "partial government ownership"? Last I checked the US government does not own instruments or subjects of labor, so no, the US is not socialist. You're trying to do a reductio ad absurdum or something, and it's pretty lame. Bernie wants to fundamentally change this country into a socialist one. Implicit in that promise of transformation is that we are not currently socialist. And that's why you like him, isn't it? Promises something different?

Rex, it is a simple question. Is partial ownership of the markets socialism?

You seem to be trying to anticipate where this debate is going. I don't believe that is helpful in having an exchange of ideas.

Let's side bar the second paragraph for now.

I say this so we can find out if we will be able to find common ground to exchange ideas.

So let's stick to just the socialism for now.

Do you believe this question is a trap? If so why?

 

[COTUR1@43]

ratjow will join you.

Dat Zipper...