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...which is that it keeps the belts system in BJJ valid. This way we won
VagabondMusashi said:...which is that it keeps the belts system in BJJ valid. This way we won
VagabondMusashi said:A blue belt can fight a million whites and most likely none will get hurt. They are not like bullies in that way. As for fighting below their skill level, perhaps people will just have to adapt to a higher level of competition. It
jjmuaythaiguy said:I have argued against sandbagging on other threads. I really hate it when people sandbag.
Personally, if I had a choice of dropping down or going up a division because of lack of competition. I choose up. When I was white, I won my division, the absolute white division and with only 10 months of ANY grappling training I went up a division and came in second for blue. Kauai Grappler's Paradise November 2004.
As a blue, I have had to compete against a professional mma fighter / no gi advance fighter who wore a WHITE belt in the gi Super Heavy Weight Division of the Hawaii BJJ Open. WHITE! No lie.
I had a broken big toe but thought what the hell and competed. I lost of course by a kimura but I was actually up on points 5 - 0, but could not put weight on my left foot and lost. But I lost to a professional mma fighter / no gi advance competitor in my book who sandbagged that event.
I proposed that the entry blank on any competition must ask the following question.
I (name) swear that I started grappling, wrestling, judo, pancrase, submission wrestling, tjj, bjj, gjj, mjj, on (month and year or just year). I have a total of (enter # of years) years and (enter # of months) months of training and will be competing at beginner, novice, advance, pro level in no gi and (color of belt) in gi. I know that if I lie, misrepresent, sandbag or in any way fraudulently enter a competition I will be stripped of any winning medal and banned for LIFE from competitions.
jjmuaythaiguy said:I proposed that the entry blank on any competition must ask the following question.
I (name) swear that I started grappling, wrestling, judo, pancrase, submission wrestling, tjj, bjj, gjj, mjj, on (month and year or just year). I have a total of (enter # of years) years and (enter # of months) months of training and will be competing at beginner, novice, advance, pro level in no gi and (color of belt) in gi. I know that if I lie, misrepresent, sandbag or in any way fraudulently enter a competition I will be stripped of any winning medal and banned for LIFE from competitions.
Maybe that is his thought but it's still not a good side of sandbagging buecause the kid in the division that's being honest about his experince may become discourged in his training if he continiously looses.Or may question his instuctors abilities.The honest kid may think man I should be at that level at white belt and that dude just smoked me like I knew nothing.Still no goo in sandbagging.Zankou said:He is saying that sandbagging is good because it keeps up the difficulty of getting belts in BJJ. And maybe there's some truth to that, to win a white belt division you gotta be a monster. To enter blues, you gotta be terrific. Because otherwise the sandbaggers will clean you out. So even if it sucks overall, there is a silver lining. That's his point.
PittbullJudoka said:Maybe that is his thought but it's still not a good side of sandbagging buecause the kid in the division that's being honest about his experince may become discourged in his training if he continiously looses.Or may question his instuctors abilities.The honest kid may think man I should be at that level at white belt and that dude just smoked me like I knew nothing.Still no goo in sandbagging.
VagabondMusashi said:And BJ Penn would sign that up and laugh.. " I swear that I have practiced BJJ for only six weeks. " Then own the blue belt division and be banned for life for "sandbaggin". That
VagabondMusashi said:A blue belt can fight a million whites and most likely none will get hurt. They are not like bullies in that way. As for fighting below their skill level, perhaps people will just have to adapt to a higher level of competition. It