Ryan Hall: Principles of Jiu Jitsu

[SisyphusMyth]

"A principle-based approach to grappling is incredibly important. What I try to do is block out the extraneous nonsense. Talking about 55 details and reasons for something that's going on is only clouding your thought process."

 

[Gambledub]

If Ryan Hall's next instructional dvd is him just talking for 3 disks i'm still gonna get it!

 

[Patrick F Carey]

I would buy it even if it was just Ryan Hall farting on a snare drum

 

[Pirat]

My coach is fed up with him talking instead of doing moves. I like to watch his series and add some other dvd to see how his concepts sshow in the actual techniques shown. I did that with his Deep Half Guard series combined with Robson's and Caio Terra's dvds, it was interesting.

 

[FinBJJ]

Yet he keeps using hundreds of different often pointless analogies throughout his DVDs.

Don't get me wrong, I love his stuff. It's just that he often gets stuck on analogies that don't bring anything to the table.

 

[The Clifford]

Yet he keeps using hundreds of different often pointless analogies throughout his DVDs.

Don't get me wrong, I love his stuff. It's just that he often gets stuck on analogies that don't bring anything to the table.

Totally agree. I think the guy has a ton of insight that is left out from other instructionals/instructors, but the analogies turn into rabbit trails. He does have a really nice attitude and perspective about BJJ that I find refreshing though.

 

[Steve08]

Yet he keeps using hundreds of different often pointless analogies throughout his DVDs.

Don't get me wrong, I love his stuff. It's just that he often gets stuck on analogies that don't bring anything to the table.

I know what you mean, but I think he is just trying to make the concepts more clear whether or not it's actually necessary.

Regardless, I personally believe that Hall's approach to jiujitsu is revolutionary, and can be applied in analogous fashion to both striking and the takedown game were one looking to achieve mma mastery.

 

[Balto]

My coach is fed up with him talking instead of doing moves. I like to watch his series and add some other dvd to see how his concepts sshow in the actual techniques shown. I did that with his Deep Half Guard series combined with Robson's and Caio Terra's dvds, it was interesting.

It's learning style. It works for me. For others, it does not work so well.

My coach is the same way. Some people don't want to train with him because they say he talks too much sometimes. They do better with instructors that don't explain in as much detail.

Personally I like the details, but that's just me. I also can't stand instructors who teach in Sesame Street voice, but Roy Dean has a lot of fans. Ultimately I think it comes down to preference.

 

[Waldorf]

It works for me as well. The way he breaks down concepts and his use of analogies helps me tie it back into jiu jitsu as a whole and incorporate it into my overall game.

 

[fulltilt]

To each their own. I personally love how Ryan breaks things down. Instead of just learning what I can do in situation X, my learning is reinforced by knowing the why oh what I'm doing.

 

[HomerPlata]

If Ryan Hall's next instructional dvd is him just talking for 3 disks i'm still gonna get it!

Hahaha I was thinking the same :icon_lol:

 

[BJJ_Rage]

well, I certainly found confusing this video because as someone said, he talks A LOT in his dvds, analogies and stuff... but talking A LOT, its different than talking about 5928392 details... he talks about principals, and he does on his dvds because, well, hes got a shit ton of time for it... but, what hes saying is basically, X instructor teaches details that are really not that important to the move, or important at all, rather than going very deep on the principals of the technique.

I believe talking about the principals of the move is very important, teaching a set of moves to perform a technique is really bad teaching, explain what is the move about, and the principals of the move, then teach the details on the steps you should do to make the technique work, I believe that will be more beneficial to the student, but normally the instructor is just there to show the technique, doesnt really care much wether the student gets it or not, so rarely you will find people actually teaching this way...

 

[Taptap]

I often play his instructionals as a bedtime movies. Ryan's voice soothes me to sleep. No homo though.

 

[SisyphusMyth]

I believe talking about the principals of the move is very important, teaching a set of moves to perform a technique is really bad teaching, explain what is the move about, and the principals of the move, then teach the details on the steps you should do to make the technique work, I believe that will be more beneficial to the student, but normally the instructor is just there to show the technique, doesnt really care much wether the student gets it or not, so rarely you will find people actually teaching this way...

Bottom line is it's very difficult to teach principles. Because you first have to arrive at those principles, and that takes WORK! I think Ryan's brain is constant searching for the underlying concepts and so it's natural for him to teach that way. I took a couple classes with him and he is constantly discussing high-level ideas through analogies and examples. The guy is a philosopher.

 

[No1 Stunna]

I used to train with a Rickson black belt and he teaches in a very similar fashion to Ryan Hall. Lots of generalizations about each position and situation with some principles thrown in.

One or two sentences about how to address a position or situation can completely change your game and reduce wasting energy.