Russia and China soon signing Energy Deal to build Pipeline

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  1. Pupi

    Pupi SAVAGE

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    Russia just sent a message to the United States...it just shrugged its shoulders at the imposed sanctions against it and demonstrated that it has options, other than Europe, as to where to sell its energy. Russia is officially back as a world superpower and is likely to display more acts of influence in the future.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-scores-massive-gas-pipeline-deal-with-china-2014-5
     
  2. Scrody

    Scrody Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    Russia has always been a world power. Good for them though.
     
  3. Pupi

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    Kevin Rudd Banned Banned

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    so because Russia is building a pipeline with a private company they are once again a superpower?

    I think you are overestimating Russia. Their growth rate slowed to less than 1% per quarter, hardly an indication of a booming economy.

    The problem I have with this is there is no detail. What price is China paying for the gas? I'll put money on it that it is shitload less than Ukraine.
     
  5. Pupi

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    Not in the eyes of many. Russians feel a deep embarrassment after the fall of the USSR which accounts for the sudden surge in Nationalism. Pretty similar to the rise of Nazism in Germany after the embarrassment of the Versailles Treaty.
     
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    Probably a lot more money in it than this one:

     
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    This is good news for western producers. More LNG ports will be fast tracked, Canada and the US will increase oil and gas exports to Europe. Should lead to job growth across the board.

    We will gladly take customers they dont want.
     
  8. GhostZ06

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    lol this lets not also forget that its putin running the country. All that money will go into military crap an not helping his country. Russian politics are run like a mafia
     
  9. Videer

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    Not as much as Europe. These negotiations have been going on for years now for the very reason.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...-gas-deal-as-crisis-forces-russia-s-hand.html

     
  10. IGIT

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    hello Scrody,

    ayup, Russia never really went anywhere, and its understandable that they'd ally themselves with their fellow autocratic superpower, China.

    - IGIT
     
  11. IGIT

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    hiya Pupi,

    Russians themselves may feel that way over the breakup of the Soviet Union, but with the vast energy reserves coupled with their nuclear arsenal, Russia has always been a superpower - and i think comparing the vanquished Nazis with Russia is overstating things a bit.

    - IGIT
     
  12. IGIT

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    hello all,

    if folks are alarmed at the strength of Russia, the way to cut Mr. Putin off at the knees is pretty simple.

    alternative energy.

    if green tech becomes affordable (or Thorium power ever comes to pass), that'll be that, as far as their economy goes. it will tank, just like the fall in oil prices helped gut the Soviet Union.

    - IGIT
     
  13. drstrangelov

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    The nazis weren't vanquished at Versailles, and the Germans had economic capacity that the Russians don't have. Russia is reasserting itself regionally, but it's a global power only if some neighboring power wants to push it's military deep into Russian territory.
     
  14. D3THRONED

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    russia is over-rated
     
  15. Ishaq

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    Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. Putin is a good politician but a terrible economist.

    He's placed every single one of Russia's eggs in the energy basket. Even a large increase in world supply of LNG and/or oil could tank their economy.

    This is no world superpower. It's not even a developed country yet. At sub 1% growth, it will take a long time to get there.

    Take a seat Putin.
     
  16. ZroC

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    I think it is a fair comparison. After ww1 the Germans were humiliated and felt they didn't lose fairly. The Russians could easily feel the same way.

    The catch is the fall of the soviet union wasn't the end of the cold war. The us and Russia were already working things out. They were both publicly declaring support for each other right before the collapse. Still I think people just chose to have a selective memory about how the cold war ended.
     
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    Senator McCain so good of,you to join sherdog.
     
  18. Ishaq

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    Lol, yes I've borrowed that line from him.

    I found it apt, after studying the Russian economy and its vulnerabilities.
     
  19. Jukai

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    Why you directin' your hate on Russia recently, Ishaq? That's a new hat for ya. It makes me uncomfortable to agree with you so much!! :icon_chee
     
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    lol, only thing going for Putin is approval rating but then again I quess Russians like their economy going to shitter. Maybe he will reach 90% approval rating if Visa and Mastercard stop working on first of july. Doubt that government workers really like to travel either.

    http://barentsobserver.com/en/secur...and-military-employees-traveling-abroad-13-05

    They still have some very good options available to them though!
     

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