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The best he ever did in Abu Dhabi was the quarter finals!? That's not a sign of having good BJJ?
Being fat makes you better at BJJ, at least defensively. You literally cannot sub a hippo. Not possible. Your arms can't wrap around anything to create leverage. It has simply too much girth. Nelson is similar albeit to a much lesser degree.
Calm down firstly.
I'm not trolling. Just because you don't agree with someone, doesn't mean they are trolling. Ok?
Secondly, I'm not saying he should have gone to the ground, I'm saying why was he clearly terrified of going to the ground by adapting to a stance we've never seen him adapt before.
Which for sure would have effected his standup by adopting that stance.
Rosholt probably won the first round, and that's with Nelson's plodding 'how soon can I hit you with my right hand' actions.
Has anyone even thought why Nelson didn't try to get the fight to the ground himself if he's this BJJ wizard we've all been conned into believing?
Why would he be so worried about being taken down. So worried that he completely changes his stance for the first time ever (as far as I recall).
Calm down firstly.
I'm not trolling. Just because you don't agree with someone, doesn't mean they are trolling. Ok?
Secondly, I'm not saying he should have gone to the ground, I'm saying why was he clearly terrified of going to the ground by adapting to a stance we've never seen him adapt before.
Which for sure would have effected his standup by adopting that stance.
Rosholt probably won the first round, and that's with Nelson's plodding 'how soon can I hit you with my right hand' actions.
Has anyone even thought why Nelson didn't try to get the fight to the ground himself if he's this BJJ wizard we've all been conned into believing?
Why would he be so worried about being taken down. So worried that he completely changes his stance for the first time ever (as far as I recall).
I thought he tko'd him from the crucifix?He grappled Kimbo Slice to a decision.
Is that supposed to be a feather in the cap of a high level jiu-jitsu practitioner?
You really sound like you're talking out of your ass.There isn't a need to get insulting, this is a conversation/debate, so calm down.
Yes i've seen that video.
Almost EVERY fighter has 'legit' BJJ skills these days.
I understand JJ and I just don't think Roy is very special at it. Last night was the perfect example to show his JJ skills, instead he took on a completely new stance because he was terrified of being taken down.
If you're that great at JJ and that comfortable with it, why would you adapt in such an extreme way?
People just need to stop talking about Roy Nelson like he's some kind of jiu-jitsu wizard who just chooses not to use it.
I've seen Werdum submit the heavyweight champion and various other people, so yeah, he kind of uses his already established and proven JJ skills don't you think?
There's no need to be patronising.
Your point makes no sense because Gonzaga, Werdum, Silva and Penn would not be afraid to go to the ground.
Do you honestly think Werdum would care too much if Jared Rosholt took him down? Fuck no! And that's from a guy arguably worse on his feet than Nelson is.
BJ Penn's career has been severely tainted because of his stubborn refusal to take fights to the ground, we all know that.
Roy has decent BJJ skills and he used to be quite good, but at this very moment both Werdum and Mir would easily school him on the ground
I like how people point to that grappling tournament where Mir gassed out of his mind to reference how good Roy is at BJJ but ignore the Mir/Roy MMA fight where Roy got controlled and the shit beat out of him on the ground
I like how you excuse Frank for being gassed and ignore the fact Roy was extremely sick in his bout vs Mir
not only did Mir also have bronchitis in his fight with Roy Nelson but he had a bad knee injury too
Roy got fucking destroyed on the ground by someone who isn't even known for his control, get over it
No Mir did not...... You are talking out your ass mate
Also did you even watch the fight? Roy didn't get destroyed anywhere it was a horrid fight for both of them
Werdum took his back in their fight and he looked pretty good defending it, so there's that.