That was a pretty wild variation if you ask me. Maybe it was just the position after she caught it from the back, or the funky under arm hold, I dunno. But I thought it was pretty cool. Do any of y'all ever catch that one much?
Rousey's Armbar from last night
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I've finished a similar one from side control
step over the head with your leg and the underarm finish is right there if you catch it
step over the head with your leg and the underarm finish is right there if you catch it
I don't understand how Zingano left her arm on Rousey's head? This is the number 2 ranked female, she wrestled since she was 12(?), picked up BJJ in 2007, and presumably has some higher ranking in BJJ, and her husband was a black belt. I don't get it. She had a GOOD 2.5-3seconds to remove it. Utter incompetence?!
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I'm a tall lanky dude but I had no problem replicating this in the gym.
It's not something I ever catch in a live roll though.
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She also won some BJJ competitions (source: Wikipedia):
In 2007 Zingano discovered Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ), shortly after she started to compete and won many tournaments: including the World Championships (Mundials) in Los Angeles, and the Rio de Janeiro State Championships in Brazil, along with several State titles in Colorado.
Plus she was a 4-time All-American and National Champion in wrestling.
Prob just a mistake due to the pressure of being smashed to bits in the first 10 secs by someone alot better and stronger, its understandable.
My question would be why she thought a flying knee was a good move out of the gate. That was completely under her control and completely ??????????
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That flying knee worked for Jones against Shogun. It was worth a shot. In a 14 second fight there is no blame game.
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My take is this. Cat gave her a big opening, and Ronda was perfect in capitalizing. I have no problem with coming in with the flying knee, and she nearly secured a takedown. But Ronda has excellent hips and rolled through to claim top position and a modified back mount.
Cat made the mistake of reaching her arm up for the head and leaving it there. It looked like she was going for the back mount escape when your opponent is riding high and you pull the head, tripod, drive in, and come out on top. But Rousey wasn't in the 2-hooks position with her head leaning over, which is the situation where that makes sense. And rather than grabbing the head, Cat was kind of reaching under the armpit for the head, which left her in position for the armbar. And she hung out there a little too long after she should have realized the escape wasn't happening. It could have been that she didn't recognize the danger, or it could have been that she was caught up in the tension of the moment and did something she normally wouldn't do. That happens sometimes, even to very good fighters.
Ronda was composed, and maintained excellent control of the position, and the arm. I thought it would have been better to control Cat's arms with her own arms and hands for better control, rather than leaving it under the armpit. But Ronda proved me wrong and she had total control. Despite being given a big opening, Ronda still showed very high level technique in getting such an effortless finish.
Cat made the mistake of reaching her arm up for the head and leaving it there. It looked like she was going for the back mount escape when your opponent is riding high and you pull the head, tripod, drive in, and come out on top. But Rousey wasn't in the 2-hooks position with her head leaning over, which is the situation where that makes sense. And rather than grabbing the head, Cat was kind of reaching under the armpit for the head, which left her in position for the armbar. And she hung out there a little too long after she should have realized the escape wasn't happening. It could have been that she didn't recognize the danger, or it could have been that she was caught up in the tension of the moment and did something she normally wouldn't do. That happens sometimes, even to very good fighters.
Ronda was composed, and maintained excellent control of the position, and the arm. I thought it would have been better to control Cat's arms with her own arms and hands for better control, rather than leaving it under the armpit. But Ronda proved me wrong and she had total control. Despite being given a big opening, Ronda still showed very high level technique in getting such an effortless finish.
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I suspect she does it because she never gets armbarred from there. With the arm bent, the back mount high and loose, and Cat at an angle, I bet it was a no-brainer to her that she would easily escape an armbar attempt and get top position out of it. But notice that Ronda didn't go for the standard inverted armbar that most people go for from that position, which Cat probably expected and likely escapes 100% of the time in the gym.
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We don't know if Cat was stunned by the takedown. She might have thought she was escaping quickly.
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Don't spoil the fight in the title, noob
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^^^^
Because you have seen it ?
Because you have seen it ?
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Ronda said after the fight that she had been practicing armbar variations that involve placing the opponent's arm under her armpit. The funky finishing position we saw last night was something she saw an opening for during the fight so she slipped her left leg past the head and rolled to her hip. She said she kinda made it up as she went along.
The final position from which Ronda finished the armbar reminded me of Dustin Hazelett's armbar on Burkman, except it obviously had a different set up and Ronda had Cat's arm under her armpit.
The final position from which Ronda finished the armbar reminded me of Dustin Hazelett's armbar on Burkman, except it obviously had a different set up and Ronda had Cat's arm under her armpit.
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So why are Ronda's opponents not practising defences for the gazillions of various armbars Ronda can pull off? They always end up looking like some reckless noobs who are not aware of where their arms are.
From what I recall, it looked like Ronda got caught a little bit off guard in the first exchange, Cat almost got a reverse headlock/throw-by type takedown off of the underhook, but found herself overextended, and Ronda was able to reverse the situation in transition by cartwheeling over to top side. Cat tried to escape side control (it wasn't back control at that point) by shooting her near arm out the backdoor to spin out and scramble to the front headlock, but by reaching for Ronda's head too early instead of checking the hip, she allowed Ronda to immediately step over to mount and secure the back hook before trapping the arm.
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ronda's entire game is getting the clinch, throwing you to the ground and armbarring you. she is outstanding at this. everyone knows she is going for it, and she still does it.
why the fuck would you throw a sloppy knee, without any sort of setup, in the first 5 seconds of the fight? i rarely feel like i'm in a position to tell a fighter they did something wrong - armchair coaches are the worst - but god damnit that was stupid.
this fight pretty much illustrates the state of the division. it's cringe-worthy.
why the fuck would you throw a sloppy knee, without any sort of setup, in the first 5 seconds of the fight? i rarely feel like i'm in a position to tell a fighter they did something wrong - armchair coaches are the worst - but god damnit that was stupid.
this fight pretty much illustrates the state of the division. it's cringe-worthy.
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You basically answered your own question. She has a wrestling base. In wrestling rules, you can leave arms out like that, because there's no arm bars and stuff like that in wrestling. In jiu jitsu, she's ranked as a purple belt. A mistake like that is something I see purple belts occasionally make when under pressure.
I think she focused on wrestling and striking for Rousey and she neglected her jiu jitsu. Who knows how much jj she's even trained since her husband(the bjj black belt) committed suicide. It didn't look like she trained too much bjj, honestly.
You're absolutely right. She had time to pull that arm out. I said to my wife while we were waiting, she's going to get submitted, as my wife said, "no, she's going to get out", rousey got the arm bar. She got to the point she's at with her striking and "mma." Was it incompetence? I don't think so. I think Zingano just choked.
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i think zingano left her arm on the head because he was gonna try to shuck ronda off the top, but ronda wasn't high enough on her back for that to be anywhere near effective. she then left it there for way to long for god knows why.
tbh, i was much more impressed with the reversal than the armbar. i think zinganos throw legitimately caught ronda off guard and that was somewhat impressive too, despite her getting owned immediately after.
and that dustin hazelett armbar position is a pretty standard armbar position. i finish from there more often than i finish from guard.
tbh, i was much more impressed with the reversal than the armbar. i think zinganos throw legitimately caught ronda off guard and that was somewhat impressive too, despite her getting owned immediately after.
and that dustin hazelett armbar position is a pretty standard armbar position. i finish from there more often than i finish from guard.
