Ronda & WMMA = Royce Gracie & The Early Years Of UFC. How Long Can Ronda Stay On Top?

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Everytime I watch Ronda, all I think about is the way Royce fought in the early years of the UFC. Nobody really had a clue how to defend Royce's bjj and people thought of him as a one trick pony. However, once fighters figured out his one trick, Royce was never the same. How long can Ronda stay on top using her one trick?
 
Skill-wise it's not that bad but talent pool is very small and obviously they don't have same kind of physical strengths as men who are same size.
 
As you point out from the Royce example being one dimensional can only take you so far. Ronda's judo and armbar are pretty far though. She's gives up her back to much, think it's from her judo backround where they give it up a lot.

She could definitely improve her striking. In my opinion woman's striking is not as technical at the men's, so any improvements in her striking would go a long way in the division; on the other hand it's kinda hard to see where her striking's at cuz she doesn't use it to much.

The odds are against her from a math perspective; her armbar and judo prob cant get any better at this point, and the more competition she fights, who know her game and adjust for it, the more likely she looses.

What are the odds of her winning another 7 fights in a row by armbar...
 
Lol at her "one trick"

Liz Carmouche did everything she could to defend the armbar and her technique was ALMOST perfect. It's just Ronda's technique IS perfect.

Maybe if you guys trained a little you would know that. There is a reason why the combat sports community praises her while keyboard warriors talk shit
 
False analogy.

Said WMMA fighters are fighting in "PRESENT" time, as such they are very aware of the armbar and how to defend it.

In comparing said situation to Royce is silly...i.e. Jitz was just arriving on the scene at that time, and there WASN'T the knowledge there is today vis-a-vis sub. defense.

Just give Rhonda her credit.
 
I'd be willing to bet Ronda cross trains a lot more than Royce ever did.

Still, it'll be difficult to maintain her current level of success. 7 consecutive first round armbars is pretty impressive.
 
ummm what? I don't get how Royce was a one trick pony. He won every fight with plenty of different subs. Did you mean he was one dimensional because he only really had strong bjj? We can't say that about Ronda just yet. I think at this point the armbar is just some kind of trademark she likes to use. Put someone with a strong skill set against her and we'll see just how much of a one trick she is.
 
Some top end WMMArtists train in top end modern MMA camps, every opponent Ronda has faced is waaaay past UFC 1 knowledge. At least UFC 7 level
 
FlyThai said:
Lol at her "one trick"

Liz Carmouche did everything she could to defend the armbar and her technique was ALMOST perfect. It's just Ronda's technique IS perfect.

Maybe if you guys trained a little you would know that. There is a reason why the combat sports community praises her while keyboard warriors talk shit
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How do you know ppl posting don't train?
 
Ronda has a fantastic grappling game, she has a lot more tricks than the armbar but we probably won't see them until somebody can actually stop her trademark move.

But agree with other posters, false analogy. The people she is fighting know all about bjj (Ronda already subbed a bjj bb champ in 25 seconds), unlike Royce's opponents who had no idea what it was.
 
FlyThai said:
Lol at her "one trick"

Liz Carmouche did everything she could to defend the armbar and her technique was ALMOST perfect. It's just Ronda's technique IS perfect.

Maybe if you guys trained a little you would know that. There is a reason why the combat sports community praises her while keyboard warriors talk shit
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This. Everyone she has trained with and who knows what he is looking at appreciate her skills. There obviously is a disparity in skill between her and her competition, but it's a lot less due to the competition being bad, and a lot more to do with her being good. You don't medal in the olympics against naturally bigger girls as primarely a newaza specialist without being pretty fucking good.
 
Think whatever you want, it doesn't make it true. Ronda is training with camps like Cesar Gracie, and Alpha Male.....not to mention Judo is not BJJ, its a true martial art. You should think things through, and you won't come off as clueless. Royce was NOT ATHLETIC AT ALL. Ronda is super athletic, and she is training just as hard as any other girl out there. HOW LONG HAS SARAH KAUFMANN BEEN TRAINING AT A TOP TOP TOP CAMP! Did it help? No, so use your brain next time...
 
Ronda pulls off the armbar despite everyone knowing it's coming and how to defend it. More so, she's constantly improving as a fighter.
 
Ronda isn't a one trick poney (and neither was Royce but that is a different discussion). It just happens that the arm bar is her best technique so she keeps going back to it. Once someone thwarts enough arm bar attempts and gets into the second, third, etc. rounds I am sure we will see Rousey try other techniques effectively. There is no way she is spending all this time training with top MMA guys and only working arm bars.
 
FlyThai said:
Lol at her "one trick"

Liz Carmouche did everything she could to defend the armbar and her technique was ALMOST perfect. It's just Ronda's technique IS perfect.

Maybe if you guys trained a little you would know that. There is a reason why the combat sports community praises her while keyboard warriors talk shit
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Cool Story Bra. :rolleyes:
 
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