Ronda Rousey vs. Holly Holm UFC 195 (Poll)

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  1. AndersonOvereem

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    Newest promo, starring Ronda's cute little sister Julia Rousey:

     
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    They all the same.
     
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    Who voted for Holm? She's an old lady with low level grappling

    Ronda via whatever she wants.
     
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    LOL, this thread title still hasn't been changed to "UFC 193" yet.
     
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    Ronda by armbar

    Thought Miesha was getting the titleshot, would have preferred Holm to have a few more fights before the titleshot.
     
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    I'll toss Holly that vote...

    On the working theory that she'll target the knees!
     
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    Confusing the casuals :)
     
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    Holly's going to be squashed fast.
     
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    It's a long shot, I just hope she doesn't fight scared. Would be great to see it go 4-5 rounds
     
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    It's really obvious that Rousey will win like always, I am still pulling for Holm though. Holm has decent footwork and a good jab, doubt that will be enough but you never know.
     
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    rip holly
     
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    The UFC has upped their promotional game considerably over the past year or so, particularly for their sport's biggest stars like Ronda Rousey. They don't do it for every event -- they're still running with "Short vs. Tall" to promote Cormier vs. Gustafsson -- but their best efforts are clearly on display here.

    With UFC 193: Rousey vs. Holm just under two months away, Ellen DeGeneres tweeted to her 46,000,000 followers the first promo for the card.



    This video (which you can also see at the top of the page) presents a re-enacted timeline of Rousey dating back to when she was 11 years old. It includes how she first became interested in judo, her mother displaying her own armbar skills, getting in trouble at school after submitting a boy, winning her Olympic bronze medal, seeing the UFC on TV for the first time, and then lastly training for her November 14th showdown with Holly Holm in Melbourne, Australia's Etihad Stadium. Holm then appears opposite Rousey inside the Octagon, with referee Herb Dean (note: pretty sure that's not Herb Dean) signifying the beginning of the contest.

    It's only a 1:45 clip, so at some point you definitely need to watch this.

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/...le-ronda-rousey-promo-ufc-193-ellen-degeneres
     
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    hilarious matchmaking, holm will get destroyed.
     
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    You're dumb if you pay for this sham of a fight
     
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    this should be a poll on what round & how Ronda is gonna finish Holm not who's gonna win
     
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    Don't get your hopes up; Holly is going to get injured sparring with Overeem.
     
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    That would be great for the fans
     
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    This was their best option outside of Cyborg, it's not a terrible fight tbh, I'm actually looking forward to it.
     
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    - Anderson went 4 years straight without a serious challenge

    - GSP went 6 years without a challenging fight

    - Jon Jones had 1 challenging fight in 5 years

    - Aldo has been undefeated for nearly 9 years and has sonned pretty much everyone

    Guess everyone was dumb for paying for their fights too.

    And everyone was dumb for buying Tyson's fights too

    Who gives a shit? Why do you care what other people spend their money on?

    Your broke ass will still probably stream it. I'll be buying it, just like I buy all of Rondas cards. I love JJ too. And 70k people will be epic as a backdrop. I bet it will sell well
     
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    Who would you have gone with? Cyborg obviously isn't happening anytime soon so it was either this or an unnecessary rematch.
     
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    I think holm will give a Better fight than most people think. I believe she will win a round and will be subbed in the 4th but she will actually present herself as a huge rematch for Ronda in 4-6 months
     
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    I won't even bother watching this fight. I will just catch the gif.

    I wonder if Rogan will propose to Ronda and then break down in tears during the post-fight interview.
     
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    What if Holly did win? I voted for her in the polls. It's crazy when you think about it. I bet the media will call it the biggest upset in the history of the sport. With Ronda's popularity and all.
     
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    Just announced on GMA!

     
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    This could be fight of the year! I'm beyond pumped for this one. Everyone ready for a barn burner? This will be a war of attrition due to these fighters being so closely matched in skill sets, cardio, and physical gifts.
     
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    I don't know why everyone thinks Ronda gets immediate submission if the fight goes to the ground. Even though WMMA is in its infancy think about Cro Cop. He came to MMA in its relatively early stage as a striker with zero background in grappling and it took a BJJ master Nogueira to submit him who only has his chin to thank that he survived long enough to pull off that submission. Cro Cop defeated a lot of grapplers.

    If Ronda takes Holm to the ground she could just pull guard and stall. I'm no expert on grappling so feel free to correct me but as far as I remember other Ronda's fights she got her submissions after some wild scrambling after her judo throws. I'm sure that Holm is well prepared for defensive grappling and she's training in the best possible MMA gym. If judo-style ground fighting was so effective and lead to quick submissions in MMA we'd see the likes of Satoshi Ishii absolutely dominating but this is not the case.

    Holm could use the McGregor's approach vs Mendes and just pull guard and wait, throw some elbows and be patient. She had a lot of time to prepare for that.
     
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    Holm is not getting any better or younger. Shell never have what it takes to beat ronda so you might as well throw her in there now.
     
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    holly is gonna get tossed around.
     
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    I want Holly to win, but lets face it, a bottom feeder in a week division isn't going to beat her.
     
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    Miesha vs Cyborg?
     
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    Not sure if I said this earlier in the thread, but I still think this fight will look like Drago vs. Creed. Holm (Creed) will be elusive for a little while and Rousey (Drago) will struggle to hit her, but once she gets hold of her, it'll be the beginning of the end for Holm. Ground 'n' pound or clinch + throw + armbar will end it at around the 4-minute mark of the first round.
     
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    Fight Night bump!
     
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    too soon. why is Miesha out?
     
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    Holly Holm has long, lean, thick cut biceps. They look like grade A steaks. I think that will help her neutralize the grappling from Ronda Rousey.
     
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    The difference between Ronda and Ishii is two things.

    First, Ronda us a ground specialist whilst Ishii is not. Submissions are relatively rare in judo competition yet Ronda hit a disproportionate amount of them.

    Second, Ronda has trained for a long time to implement her judo into a no-gi environment. World class judoka rarely transfer over well because their game relies on grabbing sleeves, belts, and collars. Ronda has been training no go judo for a long time.



    I'd also add that Holm will have a hard time stalling with Ronda in her guard. Ronda is a brutally effective guard passer and Holm is a low level grappler.
     
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    The thread in the top 3 on this same board wasn't adequate?
     
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    Dumb poll. The question shouldn't be who will win, the question should be whether or not Ronda will win within 30 seconds.
     
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    Ronda by armbar.
     
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    It will look like TJ vs Barao

    Either that or Ronda via armbar
     
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    Glad to be among those who knew what was coming..
     
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    Bumrush into the clinch whilst taking and giving some punches, judo throw, armbar. Why even watch?
     
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    Thread title needs to be changed to UFC 193.

    Just in case there's a rematch at UFC 195 :D

    Sounds about right. Holm will have no problem dancing longer than all 3 of Rousey's previous opponents combined.
     
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    I have never been this happy to be wrong about MMA predictions.
     
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    Holly gonna get thrown.
     
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    205 is prreettyy damn shallow, even hw is better. albeit the heavyweights are all old. there are more fighters and more good fights to be made.
     
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    Why am I not surprised to see the biggest loud-mouthed WMMA-haters who shit on Holly Holm in this thread and basically called her an overrated can are now making endless threads about how awesome and talented she is.

    And LOL at the 1/1/2016 poll closing date and the newest 20 retro-voters.
     
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    Ducking Tate and Cyborg now to fight a one dimensional boxer who is old now.
     
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    Rousey is -1500.

    What this means is this: Vegas Casino's are giving away FREE $100 dollar bills. 1 for each $1,500 you have.

    High cost of entrance but FREE money.
     
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    Who was picking the winner, who was picking who they were rooting for?

    I picked Holly, but I'm a Ronda fan.


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    dope fight I'll watch

    I wonder what happened with meisha?
     
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    For what? People who don't care wouldn't be in this thread.

    People pretending not to care, however...
     

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