Ronda Rousey makes Forbes "30 under 30" list

What you seem to be missing is that she has the actual ability and results in addition to those other things. That's why she is the total package. That is why she is marketable. That is why she is getting the attention she does. If it were just about looks, Michelle Waterson would be the biggest star in MMA. The reason Carano was so popular was because she looked good and kicked ass. Ronda looks pretty good, she talks a good game, she does a better job marketing herself than maybe anyone in MMA, and she is an olympic medalist, and she is a worldbeater in MMA.



It's Forbes, not ESPN. I'm pretty sure they consider more things than just the w/l column.



She is also a good self promoter. What was Cyborg or even Carano doing to get their names out there? It's not just Zuffa pushing Ronda, it's Ronda pushing Ronda. She's going above and beyond to get exposure and build her brand...which is why she made the Forbes list.



It's Forbes, not ESPN.

"She's already getting media we've never even got before" - Dana White

Ask all the sponsors why they are giving her endorsements. Ask TMZ why they let her be a guest host. Ask the stock exchange why she got to ring the bell. Ask all of the mainstream talkshows why they have her on as a guest. Ask them all why they are giving her all of this and not most other fighters, or in some cases, no other fighters.

It's about marketability. She is just as, if not more marketable than the other UFC/MMA stars. That is why she is getting attention. That is why she is on the Forbes list. It's not just about in-ring/cage accomplishments.

I don't think it's that hard to understand.



She is getting exosure the others can't get. She is the total package. If you honestly don't understand why she is doing things Aldo never has, I don't know what to tell you. It's pretty obvious to me.



It's not even that. Even if you hated Ronda, I think you would be saying the same things, because you actually know what you are talking about and don't make a habit of talking out of your ass. You actually know about WMMA, so you would never make a claim like "she's never beat anybody good" because you know better. You would still be able to acknowledge the things you bring up now. That's the difference between knowledgeable fans and those who really don't know what they are talking about.

There are a lot of people complaining that Forbes chose her because of her marketing potential over just her accomplishments in and of themselves...even though it's Forbes and it's about money, not sports accomplishments.

There are a lot of people who don't know anything about WMMA, and don't even want to know anything about it, but still think they are in a position to argue with people who actually do know about it.

There are a lot of people around here that like to talk out of their asses. Most people on here, really.

Thanks and great post.

What are you talking about??

Rousey's hype is mostly the work of the UFC marketing team.

Cyborg got where she is by knocking people's heads off.

Gina got where she is by having a 7-0 MMA record, beauty, and most importantly, by doing a tons of other work outside of MMA, such as video games, modeling, tv shows, etc.

So, in terms of MMA accomplishments, Cyborg has done the most.
In terms of mainstream popularity, Gina has achieved the most.

People outside of the MMA community don't know who Rousey is, whereas Gina is going Hollywood and is dating Cavill, the star of the new Superman film:

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The main reason behind Ronda's 'hype' is not because of the their marketing team. It's because she worked very hard self promoting herself, more specifically the fued with Miesha Tate.

The vast majority of people know Cyborg because of the Carano fight - Carano is a star.


Its close but Ronda has beaten better competition than Cyborg, she's done it more impressively and hasnt been busted for PED's too.
 
wow, do you hate all women or just successful women, or super hot successful women that could kick the livin shiz out you?

I wouldn't call Rousey super hot. She does have a great smile though.
 
wow, do you hate all women or just successful women, or super hot successful women that could kick the livin shiz out you?

They just hate success in general by anyone they aren't fans of. And considering how most users here aren't fans of wmma, they are, in turn, not fans of the successes of anyone within wmma. If you do well, Sherdog hates you. Those are the rules. Thankfully, no one gives two shits what anyone on sherdog thinks, so it seems like a fair trade.
 
so it's her success and ass whipping skills that you find intimidating. you got some mommy issues...

I totally misread that to say "ass wiping skills," which is certainly an area everyone needs to have some level of proficiency at.
 
she is so pretty, and she trolls like chael sonnen!. this is not what fightsports is supposed to be about. image is now taking precedense over actual ability and results. :icon_neut

I beg to differ. She has tonnes of ability coupled with half decent looks. therefore this is a stupid comment IMO
 
It's not just the work of the UFC marketing team. She is going above and beyond to market herself, moreso than Carano did when she was fighting, and especially more than Cyborg has done. And yes, she does have Zuffa behind her also pushing her brand.

Comparing her accomplishments to Cyborg, I think she has done almost just as much. Cyborg's resume isn't exactly a who's who of WMMA. Her best win is probably Coenen, her most high profile win is easily Carano. Baszler, as good as she is, is almost like a high level journeyman. She can never seem to get over the hump. She always loses to the top fighters as well. Hiroko was largely untested when she fought Cyborg, and her two losses since have shown that she isn't what we hoped/thought she might be.

While Ronda doesn't have as high of a profile win as somebody like Carano, Kaufman is arguably just as good as Gina was. Tate is just as much of a high level opponent as Coenen, Carmouche (if she beats her) is arguably just as good of a win as Baszler.

Cyborg was crushing her opponents, but Ronda is beating her opponents just as impressively, and she has never been caught cheating. On top of that, she is an olympic medalist, credentials Cyborg doesn't have. It may not mean anything in the MMA cage, but when it translates to image, maretability, and overall accomplishments, it does matter, and this discussion is about Forbes, not Fighters Only Mag.

In regards to her popularity vs. Carano's, I would argue she is just as popular, doing just as much as Gina did when she was a fighter. Who cares about what Gina is doing now. That isn't relevant because she isn't a fighter anymore. But the biggest differences are, Gina was more of an accidental superstar. She was a good fighter who also looked good and had mass appeal. But she was never outgoing or outspoken the way Ronda is. Ronda is the better self promoter.

Not that it really matters anyways, because this discussion is about why Ronda is on the Forbes 30 under 30 list and Gina isn't under 30, so even if she was still fighting and a bigger name than Rousey, she still wouldn't be on the list over her.

First, regarding Cyborg: Can we agree that she didn't get where she is due to her looks and marketing hype? So what we have left is her fighting ability.

Second, regarding Gina: She is WAY more successful now than Rousey or any female MMA fighter could ever dream of. My post was in response to the other poster who said Rousey "has done the most" or whatever it was.

Lastly, regarding Rousey: Of course, I'm not saying she has no talent at all. That would be ridiculous. She is a bronze Olympic medalist in Judo. However, let's not be naive and think that she made the Forbes 30 under 30 because of her Bronze medal or a couple of armbar wins in Strikeforce...

Let's be real (and I'm not hating, just saying like it is): She wouldn't get on that Forbes' list without the UFC's backing (Lorenzo's, most likely).
 
I totally misread that to say "ass wiping skills," which is certainly an area everyone needs to have some level of proficiency at.

and illiterate to boot. you're quite a catch. I gather you're on several gov't watch lists, and engaging in this sort of online dialogue is likely a violation of the terms of your probation.
 
Rousey is a despicable human being. Saying that she thinks Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy and never actually happened and saying that GSP is only successful because he is good looking and Canadian. She's a joke in my book. Amazing judo and arm-bar specialist, but a joke none the less.

edit: good for her to make this list, but IMO, she deserves to be dropped simply based on her comments on Sandy Hook. Rape jokes are a big deal, but this isn't? Talk about GSP benefiting from being "good looking", surprising that Rousey would say that. Im sure she isn't benefiting from her looks at all.
 
I beg to differ. She has tonnes of ability coupled with half decent looks. therefore this is a stupid comment IMO

so do other, more deserving candidates. why is everyone ignoring this?.
 
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settle down

I think you are the one that needs to settle down, a quick look at your last 5 posts on this site show you are way of your depth talking about things like this - it hurts to see the success she is having, doesn't it?

Go on, it's ok to open up about these things.
 
Rousey is a despicable human being. Saying that she thinks Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy and never actually happened and saying that GSP is only successful because he is good looking and Canadian. She's a joke in my book. Amazing judo and arm-bar specialist, but a joke none the less.

She never said that about Sandy Hook, she just shared a video she thought was "interesting", and she does have a bit of a point about Gsp. Last night I even heard some girl talk about how mad she was she didn't watch his last fight because of her crush on him. She is a little outspoken but whatever, her personality and ability woo'd Dana White enough to create a woman's division, and being a judo Olympian and Champion makes sense that she made the list. Not to mention all of her other accomplishments and fame, like hosting Tmz and being on numerous top sports magazine's covers.
 
Take your own advice.

You bitching about Honda on Sherdog isn't going to change shit.

Sit back and enjoy the Honda era

i'm not trying to change anything, and i definately wouldnt try to change the minds of 50% of you guys who are fans of her "image"

I think you are the one that needs to settle down, a quick look at your last 5 posts on this site show you are way of your depth talking about things like this - it hurts to see the success she is having, doesn't it?

Go on, it's ok to open up about these things.

i am way out of my depth for pointing out that she is undeserving of that honour?..the fuck :icon_neut
 
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