Robbie's success improves Nick Diaz' resume?

Robbie will fight Matt Brown. ASAP.

Then he will be waiting for Hendricks as soon as he heals.


In the mean time Diaz will earn $0 and not win a single fight, top 10 or otherwise.. He missed the Matt Brown boat, which is quite obviously the best possible match up Diaz could ever hope for with his current gameplan.
 
An impressive win at the time, Nick was known as a grappler.. both have improved since then a lot..

Would love to see a rematch, Robbie and Nick are awesome to watch.
 
Diaz improved more, what? If anything Diaz has regressed. He stopped using his ground game which is his best asset.

Lawler looks unbeatable at 170 now, clearly #1 ranked WW, and Diaz still doesn't have a single top10 win.

Diaz has 4 top 10 wins I can think of off the top of my head, he also beat the #1 LW in the world before it was changed to a NC so that's 5. He never stopped using his ground game, he started winning fights on the feet instead with his much improved boxing. He was only a purple belt when he fought Lawler, he's now a longtime black belt so it's not like he even had the ground game back then to compare to what he has now.

I really don't understand why you feel the need to discredit Diaz, it's actually pretty pathetic. Lawler loves the guy, they both got along well in Strikeforce and said they weren't interested in a rematch. Lawler's skill level was always there even back when he fought Diaz, if you can't see that Diaz improved more after the first fight (literally the first time that people realized he was anything more than a purple belt BJJ specialist while Lawler was already an accomplished well rounded top 10 WW) then I don't know what to tell you.

Robbie is going to get his second title shot within a year and Diaz is just going to cry on the sidelines.

I'm a huge Lawler fan, I can't wait for him to win the belt. Diaz is retired... were you trying to make some kind of point here? Lol.
 
Hell no it just shows how much Robbie has improved
 
I dont understand the point of this stupid threads. That fight was 10 fucking years ago.
 
Ancient history fight is irrelevant.

In terms of the current WW landscape and title picture, you're absolutely right. In terms of legacy, top 10 wins and all around career for both men, this fight will always be relevant. It was Lawler's last WW loss before Hendricks, it's an important fight in the history of the division.
 
4 top ten wins???

He has only has one depending on which rankings you use. Paul Daley... and I guess you can count BJ Penn because he had legacy ranking sort of like Dan Henderson has now.

Don't know how you come up with 4...


I'm sorry I just lost a lot of respect for the guy after the GSP fight.

He cried and cried for years to fight GSP, then when he was gifted the chance to fight him, hr came in with no gameplan at all and gave GSP probably the worst fight of his career next to Dan Hardy, if not the worst.

Dan Hardy at least looked like he wanted to be there and fought his hardest. Diaz was crawling away from the fight at times, I just didn't get it and still don't.
 
No, Robbie has had a real resurgence in his career and he's not the same fighter that he was just a few years ago in Strikeforce, let alone 10 years ago.
 
In terms of the current WW landscape and title picture, you're absolutely right. In terms of legacy, top 10 wins and all around career for both men, this fight will always be relevant. It was Lawler's last WW loss before Hendricks, it's an important fight in the history of the division.

I'm not really sure if Robbie was top 10 at the time. Considering Diaz lost his very next fight and 4 of his next 6 didn't even do much in the short term.

It was an exciting fight when it happened. But I don't believe Robbies current actions makes that win any more notable.
 
4 top ten wins???

He has only has one depending on which rankings you use. Paul Daley... and I guess you can count BJ Penn because he had legacy ranking sort of like Dan Henderson has now.

Don't know how you come up with 4...


I'm sorry I just lost a lot of respect for the guy after the GSP fight.

He cried and cried for years to fight GSP, then when he was gifted the chance to fight him, hr came in with no gameplan at all and gave GSP probably the worst fight of his career next to Dan Hardy, if not the worst.

Dan Hardy at least looked like he wanted to be there and fought his hardest. Diaz was crawling away from the fight at times, I just didn't get it and still don't.

He stopped more of GSP's take-downs than many of his other opponents, took little damage, and at least managed to land some shots.

He did better than Shields, Alves, Koscheck, Hardy, Condit (minus the kick), Fitch, Penn, Hughes, and Serra (the second fight, obviously), just off the top of my head.
 
No no no no!! Does Keith Jardine losing to Big Head discredit Chucks legacy?

Robbie has success because he is a improving fighter and not some whiney gangsta-wannabe
 
Nick Diaz knocked out Robbie Lawler, at the time where Nick Diaz was coming in only as a submission specialist, and his boxing back then was nothing compared to his later years.

Robbie Lawler came in with a strong striking style, but Nick Diaz surprised the world by going toe to toe with him on the feet. Obviously Nick Diaz hits hard, he knocked out Paul Daley, Robbie Lawler.

The fight with Carlos Condit was close, BJ Penn was ranked when they fought if people don't remember. The GSP loss though was clear that Nick Diaz was improving his TDD, but the top wrestlers were giving him problems. They were just physically too strong.

In his interviews, you can see how passionate he is about what martial arts is about. The idea behind technique over strength was shown. He exercised clean eating, although not perfectly a vegetarian, he admitted he was a pescetarian. He didn't like the flash KO's, he believed that you have to win the fight first so that you can earn that finish.
 
No, Robbie has had a real resurgence in his career and he's not the same fighter that he was just a few years ago in Strikeforce, let alone 10 years ago.

Robbie was better 10 years ago than he was a few years ago in Strikeforce. He had some great finishes over the years but he was never the fighter he was at WW, that's where he's always been his best.

I'm not really sure if Robbie was top 10 at the time. Considering Diaz lost his very next fight and 4 of his next 6 didn't even do much in the short term.

It's a documented top 10 win, there's nothing to argue there. They both went downhill after the fact, Lawler moving to MW and struggling and Diaz dropping close decisions but it doesn't change where they were at in their careers when it happened.

It was an exciting fight when it happened. But I don't believe Robbies current actions makes that win any more notable.

Yeah, my point is that people will always try to hype up or downplay a win. People thought the win was shit when Robbie was a MW getting ragdolled by grapplers, they think the win is great now because he's a title contender again. Nothing changed, it always was and always will be a great top 10 win.
 
He stopped more of GSP's take-downs than many of his other opponents, took little damage, and at least managed to land some shots.

He did better than Shields, Alves, Hardy, Condit (minus the kick), Fitch, Penn, Hughes, and Serra (the second fight, obviously), just off the top of my head.

You are completely fucking delusional if you think Nick did better then Condit (even without the head kick), Shields and Alves.

Condit fucked GSP up with elbows and even reversed him once. Condit constantly attacked off his back with strikes and looking for subs and sweeps.

Alves was pretty close to even with GSP in the striking (GSP with the edge due to the Knock Downs), and reversed him getting top position and landed some good GnP. He popped back to his feet almost every time he was taken down.

For as boring as the Shields fight was, shields actually won a round or two which is more then Nick can say.

Outside of the 30 seconds or so that Nick stuffed A few of GSPs TDs and landed a couple good straights, Nick did nothing. It looked like he just gave up. He was not attacking off his back like Condit, he was not holding his own on the feet like Alves and he certainly was not winning any rounds like Shields
 
You are completely fucking delusional if you think Nick did better then Condit (even without the head kick), Shields and Alves.

Condit fucked GSP up with elbows and even reversed him once. Condit constantly attacked off his back with strikes and looking for subs and sweeps.

Alves was pretty close to even with GSP in the striking (GSP with the edge due to the Knock Downs), and reversed him getting top position and landed some good GnP. He popped back to his feet almost every time he was taken down.

For as boring as the Shields fight was, shields actually won a round or two which is more then Nick can say.

Outside of the 30 seconds or so that Nick stuffed A few of GSPs TDs and landed a couple good straights, Nick did nothing. It looked like he just gave up. He was not attacking off his back like Condit, he was not holding his own on the feet like Alves and he certainly was not winning any rounds like Shields

Diaz didn't poke GSP in the eye 300 times, didn't get knocked down, and didn't spend the entire fight on his back.

Admittedly, I'd have to watch the Alves fight again (but I do KNOW that Alves took more damage than Diaz) and Condit had his one moment of glory, in between getting taken down and handled the entire fight. I'd have to watch the fights again, but I recall him taking less damage than Condit.

If you're going to call someone 'fucking delusional', you might as well start with the person who made the comically ignorant comment to which I was replying.
 
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