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Roach - "Danny Garcia 4 Pacquiao" - ARUM "Fight Possible!"

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  1. Adamant GOLD BELT

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    So assuming the Mayweather fight falls through again, how do you see a Pacquiao/Garcia bout going? I really like the idea of this fight. I think Pacman wins it fairly easily, but it's an interesting fight nonetheless.
     
  2. Farbeyondthesun Banned Banned

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    Easy win for Pac.... Garcia went life and death with old Morales, Judah gave him trouble too... Should have lost to Herrera.
     
  3. Adamant GOLD BELT

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    Is this a fight where a title would be on the line?
     
  4. nac386 Steel Belt

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    I agree with this. There are some pretty good fighters at 140, but I don't think they are anything special. Garcia is a very solid guy, but I think he has hid some of his major flaws at times by winging left hooks and hoping to land one. Of course, it worked against Khan.

    You think Pac is similar to Mathysse? I don't see it. They are both aggressive guys who move forward, but other than that I don't think they have anything in common. Pac is about as similar to Mathysse as Mayweather is to Marquez, which to me is not at very much at all.

    Pac vs Garcia would be nailbiting entertainment. Garcia does have the power to knock people out with that counter left, and Pacquiao proved he can still crack a bit too against Algieri. Not that Algieri is a world beater, but that knockdown punch in the 9th had throwback power behind behind it.

    I'd heavily favor Pacquiao at 140 against Garcia just because I haven't been impressed by him in over a year. I think Garcia's only chance in hell is to knock Pacquiao out, and that's something that just isn't easy to do. Bradley gave Pacquiao his very best shot right on the chin and Pac only looked stunned for about .5 seconds. His chin seems in tact.
     
  5. HHJ Fuckin' SHOOTOUT

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    yep,i think so. he's been knocked out before,and come back and eaten hits,and shows he still can.
     
  6. PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Lets see it. Great fight.
     
  7. KantoTerror Gold Belt

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    This division is huge for pac, they're treading lightly. Danny has a belt and he's the lowest hanging fruit of the bunch. I think Roach is just being a smart businessman here. If they can hype the Algieri fight like that. I don't see them failing to hype the Garcia fight. only viable option right now.
     
  8. PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Danny plants that left on Pac's jaw and you all rethink your opinion of him.
     
  9. cottagecheesefan Gold Belt

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    If they can make the fight, this would be very exciting.

    I would pick Pac to throw straight punches through Danny's winging shots. He has enough speed to hit first and get out of the way in time, before the big hook coutner.
     
  10. nac386 Steel Belt

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    I wouldn't call Danny low-hanging fruit. He has some very solid wins against top competition on his record. He's a lineal champion in a pretty talented division, even if you think he's a bit overrated that's a tough opponent.

    This is true. Pacquiao will have to be very careful not to get caught. With the way he's been fighting I don't think he'd allow himself to get caught by that left though, and I don't see Garcia outpointing Pacquiao.
     
  11. cottagecheesefan Gold Belt

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    This. Danny is the best in the division at the moment, no debate really.
     
  12. EleazarI** Banned Banned

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    he lost to herrera
     
  13. PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Pacs got to be favored but its easier said than done. In no way shape or form am I comparing Pac to Khan, but Danny made easy work of getting those bombs in through Khan's immense speed advantage.

    Pac can do it, but Danny will plant some shots on him in the process. If he really connects things get very interesting.
     
  14. nac386 Steel Belt

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    The thing with Pacquiao is that he's been knocked out, but he's never been TKO'd. I've never seen him get hurt, then beat on until a stoppage. I think he probably recovers from a punch as well as anybody in his weight class.

    I mention that because what you said is true, it would get very interesting if Danny connects. What would happen if he dazes him badly? Would Pacquiao run? Hold? Or stand and trade? I've seen dozens of Pacquiao fights and I've never really seen him hurt badly in the ring (except for the knockouts). He had a rough fight with Morales, and was hurt by body shots with Margarito, but never anything like what we saw with Khan against Garcia, where he's holding on for dear life.
     
  15. PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I do think Danny is a live dog for a knockout. Dudes packs a hell of a wallop in his punches and he is a better counter puncher than he gets credit. Id favor Pac but Danny getting the KO wouldnt surprise me in the slightest.

    But youre right, a TKO doesnt seem very likely.
     
  16. cottagecheesefan Gold Belt

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    This. Plus Khan may have the speed, but he doesn't have the power and smarts. Pac remembers to keep using his movement of foot and head, and bring his ear muffs out. He doesn't start doing a bunch of nonstop punches until the end of the fight when both are wearing down. Or he has significant control.

    Amir just stands in front, throwing a ton of punches, until he gets countered.


    edit: Not to say it is one sided. Like I said, I like this fight. When the Algeri fight was made, I thought it was BS to NOT work with Oscar THEN and make this fight.
     
  17. nac386 Steel Belt

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    I like the fight too. I think Pac vs Garcia is one of the 10 most exciting options in boxing right now.

    Pac vs Mayweather
    Pac vs Garcia
    Cotto vs Canelo
    Andre Ward vs GGG
    GGG vs Canelo
    Kovalev vs Stevenson
    Crawford vs Garcia
    Rigo vs Walters
    Mathysse vs Broner
    Thurman vs Maidana

    Those are some of the fights that I'm hoping for. Hopefully we get at least of few of them this year.

    edit: I listed those off the top of my head, I'm sure there are others that are even better.
     
  18. ironfist05 Silver Belt

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    If Pac really wants a fight that will test him, I think Brook is the fight to make. JMM always gives Pac a tough fight, but I think he might be slowing down a bit, and prior to the KO, it looked like Pac was figuring out Marquez, so that's probably out. Matthysse would be a good fight too, but I get the feeling that he's either angling for a Garcia rematch or trying to wait out Garcia (who's hinting at moving to 147, right?). I like the idea of a Maidana fight actually, though I feel like Pac might out gun him if they get close up.

    Garcia is a good fight to make
     
  19. nac386 Steel Belt

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    I completely disagree with Cuban saying that Porter is more skilled than Danny Garcia.
     
  20. Farbeyondthesun Banned Banned

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    Same Garcia who struggled with Morales, Judah, and lost to Herrera??? That guy?
     

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