Rick Glenn Withdraws from WSOF 7 FW Title Fight

Rumor is he might have signed with the UFC or wants to sign with the UFC but being WOSF champ would lock him down with the org and he didnt want that. Dont know if there is any truth to that or not.

Also saying a high level name prospect is gonna get the shot, not sure who that is though.
 
That was going to be a really good fight.

The UFC have picked up a few FW's of late, I wouldn't be against the signing of Glenn, or Karakhanyan for that matter.
 
CC27 said:
Rumor is he might have signed with the UFC or wants to sign with the UFC but being WOSF champ would lock him down with the org and he didnt want that. Dont know if there is any truth to that or not.

Also saying a high level name prospect is gonna get the shot, not sure who that is though.
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It would make sense considering Glenn was lobbying for the UFC to sign him right after WSOF did. That would imply it was a short-term contract, maybe one offs, and yes one would think WSOF have a champion's clause to extend contracts.
 
Alexandre Bezerra would be the best replacement
 
KeeSmyth said:
Alexandre Bezerra would be the best replacement
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I'm all for Bezerra getting signed to fight Karakhanyan.

Another prospect that hopefully gets an opportunity stateside is Douglas D'Silva. He's a 21-0 Brazilian and has beaten a few tough opponents as of late via KO (nogueira, froes). I'm not sure if he's all hype, but he's certainly worth a look.
 
KeeSmyth said:
Alexandre Bezerra would be the best replacement
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Another WSOF champ from Bellator wouldn't look bad for Viacom. They'd get one regardless who won if Popo was the replacement here. Bellator shouldn't stand in the way of Popo's opportunity, if he does indeed receive it, and is amenable to their offer.
 
So Lance Palmer is the replacement, interesting, RFA champ fighting for WSOF belt. He loses though IMO.
 
I don't see the logic in Palmer as a replacement. Waylon Lowe is a spitting image of Palmer with much much better boxing and Georgi disposed of him very quickly. A ton of hype on Palmer but he wasn't very impressive in his fight with Downing IMO. I dont expect this to be a very competitive fight.

On another note is there any info on what Glenn's injury is?
 
I would actually be surprised if the UFC signs Rick Glenn because I think he's overrated. Ryan Roberts, Lonnie Scriven, Jimmy Seipel--those are not UFC-level fighters, but Glenn struggled with them. He has some decent wins; but I would like to see him fight guys like Karakhanyan, Lowe, Jerrod Sanders, Chris Gruetzemacher, Chris Horodecki, and Nick LoBosco in WSOF. If he could get past a couple of those guys, I would probably change my mind about him.
 
djrhoads said:
I would actually be surprised if the UFC signs Rick Glenn because I think he's overrated. Ryan Roberts, Lonnie Scriven, Jimmy Seipel--those are not UFC-level fighters, but Glenn struggled with them. He has some decent wins; but I would like to see him fight guys like Karakhanyan, Lowe, Jerrod Sanders, Chris Gruetzemacher, Chris Horodecki, and Nick LoBosco in WSOF. If he could get past a couple of those guys, I would probably change my mind about him.
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I wouldn't says he overrated, but I agree he needs another win or 2 against the caliber of guys that you mentioned. I'm not buying that he backed out of the fight bc he's going to sign with UFC. I can't imagine him getting an offer before Georgi.
 
Glenn wants in the UFC and avoiding "title defenses" in another org will get him there faster.
 
djrhoads said:
I would actually be surprised if the UFC signs Rick Glenn because I think he's overrated. Ryan Roberts, Lonnie Scriven, Jimmy Seipel--those are not UFC-level fighters, but Glenn struggled with them. He has some decent wins; but I would like to see him fight guys like Karakhanyan, Lowe, Jerrod Sanders, Chris Gruetzemacher, Chris Horodecki, and Nick LoBosco in WSOF. If he could get past a couple of those guys, I would probably change my mind about him.
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All of those fights were before he moved to Roufusport. He has improved a ton since making the move to Milwaukee. Im almost 100% sure he didn't get signed by the ufc. WSOF has exclusive contracts & he has more left on his contract.

I do know some of the details for him pulling out of the fight. I will tell you what I am comfortable with saying.

Rick has a 15 year old sister that is very sick. She was diagnosed with spinal cancer earlier this year. The doctors were not able to successfully treat it. It has spread & she could die at any time.

Rick & his wife have spent a lot of time & money during his past 2 fights visiting/caring for his sister. Also his grandmother had a massive stroke the day of the weigh ins for his last fight & died a few days later.

It has been a tough year for him & his family. There is a lot more to the story, but its personal to him & his family.

To be able to train full time, fight, work, & travel to care for his terminally ill sister shows his dedication to family & the sport.

I know people like to speculate in situations like this, but please be respectful. I hope this helps out a little.
 
djrhoads said:
I would actually be surprised if the UFC signs Rick Glenn because I think he's overrated. Ryan Roberts, Lonnie Scriven, Jimmy Seipel--those are not UFC-level fighters, but Glenn struggled with them. He has some decent wins; but I would like to see him fight guys like Karakhanyan, Lowe, Jerrod Sanders, Chris Gruetzemacher, Chris Horodecki, and Nick LoBosco in WSOF. If he could get past a couple of those guys, I would probably change my mind about him.
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That was an extremely silly post. He was 20 when he suffered both losses. Fighters improve beyond that point in their careers, and dramatically so, believe it or not. And his improvement is reflected in beating much better fighters than he lost to at 20, his last 4 fights. He's already proven he's UFC "caliber" and worth a shot with the 12-fight unbeaten streak recent wins of quality for a prospect. I'm sure the UFC would love to have him, it's just a matter of if they could extract him, and then if they did how many would he win and against who. He may not wind up being a contender in the UFC, but it's clear he could beat a good portion of their featherweights.
 
djrhoads said:
I would actually be surprised if the UFC signs Rick Glenn because I think he's overrated. Ryan Roberts, Lonnie Scriven, Jimmy Seipel--those are not UFC-level fighters, but Glenn struggled with them. He has some decent wins; but I would like to see him fight guys like Karakhanyan, Lowe, Jerrod Sanders, Chris Gruetzemacher, Chris Horodecki, and Nick LoBosco in WSOF. If he could get past a couple of those guys, I would probably change my mind about him.
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Rick Glenn will likely find struggles against top-level wrestlers, but he is one of the top prospects in the FW division. To say he's overrated and that he needs to face guys like LoBosco?? Did you not see him KO Pimental or earn a tough decision over Rofi?

Pimental and Rofi are arguably two of the top FW prospects in the world, and Glenn beat both of them in his last two fights. Outside of Jim Alers, Lance Palmer, and Gleristone Santos, I can't think of many more deserving prospects to get the call up to the UFC.
 
RankingMMA said:
Rick Glenn will likely find struggles against top-level wrestlers, but he is one of the top prospects in the FW division. To say he's overrated and that he needs to face guys like LoBosco?? Did you not see him KO Pimental or earn a tough decision over Rofi?

Pimental and Rofi are arguably two of the top FW prospects in the world, and Glenn beat both of them in his last two fights. Outside of Jim Alers, Lance Palmer, and Gleristone Santos, I can't think of many more deserving prospects to get the call up to the UFC.
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I definitely defer to you on these issues because you have evidently put more time, research, and attention into them than I have. I was probably harsher on Rick Glenn than I should have been. I just saw some blemishes on his record that other similarly situated fighters don't have. I viewed his wins over Pimentel and Rofi as saying more about his opponents than about him, but I understand that my view can be criticized as confirmation bias or circular logic. I only named LoBosco and those guys as potential opponents because they are the other top featherweights in WSOF. As for other deserving prospects, I also like Alers and Palmer, as well as Deividas Taurosevicius (although he's getting old), Chas Skelly (status with Bellator unclear to me), Mirsad Bektic, Marat Gafurov, Raoni Barcelos, and really most of the guys on your MMA Prospects Featherweight Rankings. I guess I just weight Glenn's draw and losses more heavily than you do. A minor disagreement in the scheme of things.
 
djrhoads said:
I definitely defer to you on these issues because you have evidently put more time, research, and attention into them than I have. I was probably harsher on Rick Glenn than I should have been. I just saw some blemishes on his record that other similarly situated fighters don't have. I viewed his wins over Pimentel and Rofi as saying more about his opponents than about him, but I understand that my view can be criticized as confirmation bias or circular logic. I only named LoBosco and those guys as potential opponents because they are the other top featherweights in WSOF. As for other deserving prospects, I also like Alers and Palmer, as well as Deividas Taurosevicius (although he's getting old), Chas Skelly (status with Bellator unclear to me), Mirsad Bektic, Marat Gafurov, Raoni Barcelos, and really most of the guys on your MMA Prospects Featherweight Rankings. I guess I just weight Glenn's draw and losses more heavily than you do. A minor disagreement in the scheme of things.
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Glenn definitely has his weaknesses, but as a few other posters said in this thread, he's really turned things around since moving to Roufusport. The Pimental fight, he was arguably down 0-2 heading into the final round. I think he's going to struggle against wrestling-based fighters, and I too would like to see him matched up against better known competition from this point forward. So, fights with all of those guys except for LoBosco sound good.

No hurt in calling Glenn overrated. It seems that any prospect can be picked apart and deemed overrated until they reach the UFC and prove themselves. People claim Palmer is garbage because he had a close fight with Downing, while some say Doo Ho Choi is all hype because he was dropped in his last fight. The same was said about Conor McGregor when he lost to Duffy, and look at him now.

I think Glenn has solid potential based on his size, training camp, and age (24). Nearly every UFC fighter from Roufusport (Koch, Pettis, Camus, Belcher, Ortiz, Krauss) will tell you that Glenn has the skills to compete in the UFC right now. Hopefully, that becomes reality very soon.
 
RankingMMA said:
Rick Glenn will likely find struggles against top-level wrestlers, but he is one of the top prospects in the FW division. To say he's overrated and that he needs to face guys like LoBosco?? Did you not see him KO Pimental or earn a tough decision over Rofi?

Pimental and Rofi are arguably two of the top FW prospects in the world, and Glenn beat both of them in his last two fights. Outside of Jim Alers, Lance Palmer, and Gleristone Santos, I can't think of many more deserving prospects to get the call up to the UFC.
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You contradict yourself in the first 2 sentences. LoBosco was a very good college wrestler and he just KO'ed a a very seasoned vet with a beautiful head kick followed by brutal GNP. Rofi looked like a bad amatue standing with Glenn, it was actually pretty pathetic. Lobosco is a much more Complete fighter than Rofi and I dont see how anyone that has seen both of them fight could argue that.

I agree that Glenn deserves a shot as much as the other guys that are mentioned. I personally think he's a more complete fighter than Palmer who like Rofi looks very one dimensional to me.
The good thing is all these guys will probably fight each other now so we'll see who beats who. Bad news is there all going to beat one another at some point and one will be the champ and won't be able to sign with the UFC.
 
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