1. We now have a new forum called Fantasy Matchup Discussion. Access it here

Rhadi Ferguson fighting MMA...

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Auspex, Oct 7, 2010.

  1. Auspex

    Auspex Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    2,622
    Likes Received:
    81
    Location:
    Boise, Idaho
  2. PikachuManson

    PikachuManson Green Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2009
    Messages:
    1,024
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    NJ
    I would love to see that fight! Just to see what all the hype is about.
     
  3. lts5025

    lts5025 "What the **** is a Dim Mack?"

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2007
    Messages:
    9,426
    Likes Received:
    10,117
  4. SuperSuperRambo

    SuperSuperRambo Senior Moderator Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2004
    Messages:
    32,493
    Likes Received:
    552
    Location:
    NY
    Goodness, it's about time. He's been talking about it for years and he's not getting any younger. Frankly I wish he had done it when he first talked about it, how old is he?

    Either way he can do well. He's a beast, and a black belt in judo and bjj.
     
  5. georgejjr

    georgejjr Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    5,857
    Likes Received:
    12
    Yup, and he's a great guy if you ever get a chance to meet him.

    But yeah, he's getting pretty old for this - as he himself admits. His reflexes have slowed, and he can't train like he could when he was younger. On the other hand, he is getting smarter ... and he's a Phd now as well, which probably puts him in a very select class of fighters (the Klitschko's are the only other fighter-Phd's I can think of).
     
  6. Auspex

    Auspex Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    2,622
    Likes Received:
    81
    Location:
    Boise, Idaho
    Just not a fan of his style. He's certainly a wrecking ball and I don't doubt he'll crush some heads in MMA.

    I like players, whether it's BJJ, Judo, or MMA, that have a wide arsenal to attack with...Everything I've seen with Rhadi is a power double leg (morote gari) that flings the guy in the air. Cool looking, but not my style.

    (I ain't knocking the double leg)
     
  7. georgejjr

    georgejjr Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    5,857
    Likes Received:
    12
    Actually though morote gari is his specialty, he's still very good by most standards at just about every other throw as well. Maybe not Yoshida good, but better than say Karo, who was never able to pull off much of anything against high international level competition, let alone qualify for the Olympics like Rhadi did.
     
  8. juji gatame**

    juji gatame** Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    3,704
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Selkirk, Manitoba
    Exactly. He's got a good knowledge of Judo and as a coach, but if you watch him compete in Judo he's really just a wrestler in jacket. The guy can get away with it cuz he's super athletic.
     
  9. MUFC

    MUFC Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Messages:
    2,719
    Likes Received:
    4
    I'm worried I might open up a big can of worms, but isn't a lot of Judo just wrestling with a jacket? Minor adaptations to grips, but the throws/takedowns are largely the same. The only difference is that Judo has ground work (varying degrees depending on who you train with).


    WRT Rhadi, he should have got into MMA years ago.
     
  10. Auspex

    Auspex Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    2,622
    Likes Received:
    81
    Location:
    Boise, Idaho
    Can't the same be said for any grappling art?

    I mean, I understand what you're saying. But.....
     
  11. Auspex

    Auspex Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    2,622
    Likes Received:
    81
    Location:
    Boise, Idaho
    I have ZERO doubt in my mind that Rhadi is an AMAZING Judoka. And my knowledge of him is pretty limited to highlights I've seen and posts he's made on Judoforum.com

    Very smart, talented guy....I just don't like his style.

    That being said, if I was offered a chance to train with Rhadi I'd jump on the opportunity. He seems like a great strategist and follows the Judo game very carefully.
     
  12. pinned31

    pinned31 Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2007
    Messages:
    285
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Florida
  13. radman

    radman Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2004
    Messages:
    1,913
    Likes Received:
    10
    Location:
    New York, NY
    It basically it is, but the IJF and some Judo coahces/senseis' around the world try to deny Kano's roots in human submission-wrestling. I wont disprect the rules, the uniform(aka jacket) or the Japanese cultural aspects(which I compeltely love) but
    I feel the recent rule changes to distance itself from wrestling or limit the use if techniques similar to freestyle/Greco/Folkstyle wrestling makes me throw up.
    heck from uchimata to harai-goshi to ogosh is basically a variation of a hip toss.:icon_chee And morote-gair(double leg) & kataguruma(firemans carry) are all part of the Goykyo.

    Flame me.:icon_twis
     
  14. YeahBee

    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2006
    Messages:
    24,942
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Land of the Ice and Snow
    Is he still going to fight heavyweight? he is 5'7 and can't have much of a reach

    should have done it years ago
     
  15. georgejjr

    georgejjr Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    5,857
    Likes Received:
    12
    Depends upon what you mean by wrestling. If you mean general grappling, then yes, definitely. If you mean wrestling as an organized sport with its own rules (ie freestyle, greco, folkstyle, Mongolian etc) then no, as judo has different rules then those do, and quite different scoring (the one throw finish for instance is just in judo and sambo).

    Its really semantics, and usually people who argue on either side are just arguing at cross purposes about definitions. Not unlike arguments about whether wrestling or boxing are martial arts - depends upon definitions, and amusing at times but kind of a waste of time.

    I will add that if getting judo into FILA means getting it out from under the control of the IJF then I'd be all for it - not that FILA is particularly good, they're just not (quite) as disastrous as the IJF.
     
  16. lts5025

    lts5025 "What the **** is a Dim Mack?"

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2007
    Messages:
    9,426
    Likes Received:
    10,117
    That's a great display of judo for MMA.
     
  17. MUFC

    MUFC Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Messages:
    2,719
    Likes Received:
    4
    My point was, kind of, that calling Rhadi a wrestler because he uses a technique that is found in both pure wrestling (Folk and FS) and Judo is silly because most throws are transferable, and by that by such a definition, every Judoka is a wrestler, and vice-versa.
     
  18. fourfif**

    fourfif** Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2008
    Messages:
    7,840
    Likes Received:
    5
    have you ever noticed how often times in the middle of executing a high amplitude throw that the guy throwing seems to be making adjustments mid throw? That's bc the point of a solid throw is not just points but a touch fall (ippon) that can end the match. Happens alot, just not as much as judo.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.