Reyes will beat the snot out of Jones for two rounds

[Regal Boy]

Jones will get Dominick

 

[Phisher]

Similarly sized striker who has both very good boxing AND very good kicking. Good takedown defense so far as well and solid power coupled with tremendous accuracy.

Hasn't really been tested IMO.

Reyes got taken down by non-wrestler Oezdemir, and was taken down by undersized Weidman right out of the gate.

That said. Jones's wrestling doesn't like anything like it used to be, and he's basically transitioned into being a range kickboxer. So it might very well be a shit match up for him.

 

[mjfan23]

Possible but highly unlikely. Jones is too composed and experienced not to manage risk averse to get finished by a relative new comer to the game. But hey anything’s possible

 

[sherdogwantedtonamemekiki]

This is not the first opponent jones has faced with those tools. Jones has shown you won’t get him with that 1 big shot (so far), if you want to stand a chance you have to be able to either beat him at a long distance, and make him start coming to you inside, and have the tools to deal with that, because we’ve all seen what happens to people who sit at a range with jones. IMO that’s why Gus was such a great matchup for jones. He was the best long range striker jones has ever faced, and he had prepared for that clinch game inside.

The problem with Smith, santos and reyes is that they don’t do as well at range. The reason santos had some success is because he was closing angles, forcing action inside and had the advantage in those areas, but without the answer for that insane range of jones, you’re getting your legs and body fucked up the entire fight, and he WILL make you work harder over the entire 25 minute fight. Watch the feet of any fighter against jones in the first minute other than Gus. He comes out, and they already know they can’t be in range of those kicks so they are forced to move around and do all the work while jones claims the center of the octagon. The trap is that you are going to get tired. He’s still going to land. AND if you make a mistake he gets you up on that fence and now you’re dealing with the wrestling, and his ability to land unorthodox elbows and knees. That’s why I think the person to beat jones has to be able to set the range, take center of the octagon, and make jones move for 5 rounds.

i'm holding you to this. I think it'll be someone with just as good of a grappling pedigree as Jones, a chin of granite, and is able to fight Jones in the pocket. Set up a punch a punch or two in the pocket, and then shoot for a takedown, then rinse and repeat ad nauseum to a decision win. Almost Edgar/Penn reminescent.

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

Hasn't really been tested IMO.

Reyes got taken down by non-wrestler Oezdemir, and was taken down by undersized Weidman right out of the gate.

That said. Jones's wrestling doesn't like anything like it used to be, and he's basically transitioned into being a range kickboxer. So it might very well be a shit match up for him.

I’m waiting for a fight where jones comes out and wrestle fucks someone just to show he can still do it.

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

i'm holding you to this. I think it'll be someone with just as good of a grappling pedigree as Jones, a chin of granite, and is able to fight Jones in the pocket. Set up a punch a punch or two in the pocket, and then shoot for a takedown, then rinse and repeat ad nauseum to a decision win. Almost Edgar/Penn reminescent.

Almost like how cejudo beat DJ?is that the kinda shit you’re talking about?

 

[BoD 2.0]

This fight is going to look like the Anthony Smith fight. A huge gap in skill, talent and experience.

Except Jones is going to submit Reyes in the 3rd or 4th.

 

[sherdogwantedtonamemekiki]

Almost like how cejudo beat DJ?is that the kinda shit you’re talking about?

Much better example. I think I'm probably remembering Edgar/Penn wrong now. Oh well, something to watch while at work.

 

[spinup]

Hard to beleive the guy who got gifted a dodgy decision against Oezdemir (who isn't bad, but still no Jones) will be the one to slay Jon Jones.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Reyes is very raw and unproven, he hasn't beat anyone in top 5 LHW.. its too soon and he needs a lot more time but is being rushed because the division is lacking. I see Jones just coasting and dominating everywhere and Reyes staring and being hesitant and unsure what to do.

 

[cshireman4]

Talk about a transfer of wealth. Let's see those bet slips, Jon Jones haters!!!

 

[Medulla Omoplata]

I’m waiting for a fight where jones comes out and wrestle fucks someone just to show he can still do it.

I miss hellbow Jones.

I wonder where his wrestling is at these days.

I think there's a number of paths to victory with Jones on the feet. His striking isn't "that good"... he's found a way to capitalize on his physical advantages and rack up points while keeping opponents at range. He mixes that with his clinch/sweeps and elbows when opponents close the distance. He's got this game dialed to an insane level. But he's become a bit of a specialist, he's been having such good success with this for so long I'm not convinced he's got a plan B on the feet. I really think someone with great boxing could outvolume Jones on the feet.

The big question is if he can go to his wrestling these days if he starts losing on the feet (the answer is probably yes)

 

[weaponzero2k2]

If he can do it in later rounds and sneak at aleast one another round in, we are looking at a new champ(if judges aren't biased).

and your opinion is based on...……………………………...what?

 

[Iron Nick]

Hasn't really been tested IMO.

Reyes got taken down by non-wrestler Oezdemir, and was taken down by undersized Weidman right out of the gate.

That said. Jones's wrestling doesn't like anything like it used to be, and he's basically transitioned into being a range kickboxer. So it might very well be a shit match up for him.

Fair enough, i do think though (and Reyes has said it himself as well) that the takedown Oezdemir has landed was largely due to Reyes being surprised and really, who can blame him?
True with Weidman though, although (while not being a light heavyweight) Weidman has very good/great wrestling, despite him being long out of his prime.

Let's just wait and see, i'm really curious as to how the fight will play out.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Another Jones fight, another "This is the guy to dethrone Jones!"

I don't think a lot of people were saying that Reyes or Smith were the ones to overthrow Jones. Reyes exceeded expectations simply by losing a split decision. Jones has been a prohibitive favorite in most of his fights for a long time now.

 

[Ideanudge]

So, if he beats the crap out of Jones, or knocks him out, he'll win the fight?

You must have a degree in advanced calculus from MIT or something.

Jones is a popular fighter providing good money. I am taking into consideration that three round in the bag won't be enough because we often get questionable split decisions that go in favour of the champion or the popular fighter.

 

[Killroy]

I don't think a lot of people were saying that Reyes or Smith were the ones to overthrow Jones. Reyes exceeded expectations simply by losing a split decision. Jones has been a prohibitive favorite in most of his fights for a long time now.

I'm talking specifically about the Sherdog forums where you see this narrative happening every time Jones fights

 

[Ideanudge]

Hasn't really been tested IMO.

Reyes got taken down by non-wrestler Oezdemir, and was taken down by undersized Weidman right out of the gate.

That said. Jones's wrestling doesn't like anything like it used to be, and he's basically transitioned into being a range kickboxer. So it might very well be a shit match up for him.

Reyes gets up very well. Reyes himself wrestled since 8 and won Californian nationals several times I believe. He stopped because he didn't want to cut weight constantly. Looking at his fights, he usually gets his legs tied fast because of his tall bouncing stance, he isn't being low or with ttd adapted stance. Yet he manages to get out from deep takedowns. Jones is slower and less tight with his doubles than Weidman or Oezdemir. He usually tries to tie up and trip you over than go straight double.

 

[Talon81]

How the fuck could you not expect that? He came up a division and was knocking out people in the middleweight divison.

Yes, him going up a division increases his raw strength, but not comparative to his new division. Outside of one notable example (Rumble), going up in weight creates more of a strength disadvantage (but speed advantage) to your competition. Do you really think a person fighting at LW who stops cutting to fight at MW is gonna be a KO machine?

In other words, it takes more to KO a LHW than a MW, a bigger disparity than what most MWs would gain in strength by going up.

 

[PalmStrike]

Who da fook is Reyes?