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Reyes didn't get robbed.

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by DeeDubb, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. DeeDubb Gracie Online Black Belt

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    If Reyes had been ruled the winner, I would be saying "Jones didn't get robbed". When the fight is that close, you can't really complain either way. Personally, I had it 3-2 Jones, but I could easily have seen it 3-2 Reyes, and I even see justification for 4-1 Jones (Round 2 and 3 were close enough that they could have gone to Jones or Reyes). When the fight is that close, you just have to pray that the judges are on your side. Zero robbery. Zero conspiracy. It was a good, competitive fight with multiple close rounds. When there's more than one close round, the judging can swing drastically.
    When I finished the fight, I said "Two judges are going to have it 3-2 Jones, and one will have it 4-1 Jones, but I won't be surprised if it's a split decision either way."
    Judging is tough. Really tough. They can't get it right in boxing, where the rounds are only 3 minutes and they are only punching. Picking a winner of a 5-minute round, where you have to evaluate striking, grappling, cage control, and submission offense/defense is no easy task.

    The fact is, Reyes banked everything on winning rounds 1-3, and he had nothing left in 4 and 5. He did a great job against one of the best to ever do it. He left it up to judge's discretion, and the judges chose Jones. That's the way things go.
     
  2. dartradio Banned Banned

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    I had it 5-0 Jones. The octagon control was nasty and those takedown points are being overlooked by casuals, those shits count across rounds.
     
  3. BooBoyMan Black Belt

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    If Reyes was ruled the winner, the decision would not be nearly as controversial.

    It wasn't so clear I would call it a robbery, but it was a pretty shit decision. Unanimous for Jon with one scorecard reading 49-46, what the fuck lol?
     
  4. DelanoRunnymede Purple Belt

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    I agree. 3rd round was close but Jones sealed it with that knee after the bell imo.
     
  5. DragRacer Silver Belt

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    Nope.
    Robbery of the year candidate.

     
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    Agree. You can tell who here has never set foot on a wrestling mat. It is much hard to take someone down than it is to repeatedly throw sloppy left hands, as Reyes did.
    Reyes failed in the areas Jon is strongest, Wrestling and Cardio. Meanwhile Jon matched Reyes punch for punch when it came to boxing.
    It was a good effort by Reyes but he is not a well rounded fighter or even a well conditioned fighter. Not championship caliber at all.
     
  7. Cylence Flying Arlovski Belt

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    Exactly.

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  8. DeeDubb Gracie Online Black Belt

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    Exactly. Roy Jones Jr. losing in the Olympics was a robbery. This was just a close fight that didn't go the way that fans wanted.

    Bones is going to fall, and fall hard. It will be joyous to watch. That just wasn't the fight.
     
  9. blaseblah Titanium Belt

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    A round being close doesn't mean there wasn't a clear winner. 2 and 3 clearly went to Reyes to anyone who understands the scoring criteria.

    The question you have to ask yourself when scoring a round is who landed more significant strikes. That's the only criteria that matters.
     
  10. asdf122345 Red Belt

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    yes after rewatching it. I had it a dominant win for jones. 50-45 win for jones.
     
  11. BigDogShotty Green Belt Platinum Member

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    You had it 5-0 for Jones and are talking about “casuals” haha ok buddy. Learn the judging criteria
     
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    Disagree

    I had 2 for Jones
     
  13. Cylence Flying Arlovski Belt

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    His time is definitely nearing. He needs to take great care in plotting his next few moves.
     
  14. dartradio Banned Banned

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    Octagon control is so underrated by casuals.
     
  15. BigDogShotty Green Belt Platinum Member

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    Learn the judging criteria, if you had it 5-0, you are only judging by octagon control
     
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    It wouldn't be controversial if reyes won because the world fucking hates jones lol with good reason but still.

    49-46 was asinine but jones 3-2 is perfectly reasonable, there were a couple close rounds that could've gone either way. Could see a strong argument for either side, neither being a robbery.
     
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  17. dartradio Banned Banned

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    Octagon control equals to 50 punches per round. So technically Jones outboxed Reyes every round.
     
  18. MeatWagon06 Biting on feints

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    I give you less than a week. Or is this already your second account today??
     
  19. DeeDubb Gracie Online Black Belt

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    You need to actually look at the scoring criteria for MMA. It's not as simple as significant strikes.

    http://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/juding_criteriascoring_rev0816.pdf
     
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