Rewatched HEAT

Great fucking movie. What I love most about it is not so much the main plot line itself (which in itself is fucking great), but rather the glimpse into the personal lives of all the men involved.

Pacino's dealing with a loveless marriage and a daughter with emotional/psychological problems. Deniro finds himself drawn to a demure artist but is trying to not let himself get too attached. Kilmer is trying to keep his relationship with Judd and her son together. The getaway driver is fresh out of a stint in prison and is trying to walk the straight and narrow path with the support of his loving girlfriend.

So many great subplots. These are not two-dimensional characters, but living, breathing people with lives of their own. The lengths that Mann went through to depict these character's lives only increases the stakes when they clash in a cops vs. robbers capacity. You don't want to see them die because you know what they stand to lose in their personal lives.

And DeNiro should have made it out. I enjoyed his character so much more than Al's.
 
Legendary movie.

Flawless, as far as I can tell.

This movie is too good for flaws, best I can do is a nitpick.

Originally, the part of Neil's graphic designer love interest was supposed to be a foreigner, played by Gong Li.



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Michael Mann ended up going the Southern Belle route instead.

Can't complain too much though, Amy Brenneman was great.
 
Should have simply put a contract on waynegrows head and left town like planned.
 
There are so many great scenes in this movie that i cant even count .... the whole movie is one huge awesome scene period.
I particularly love this short clip .... talk about Boss vs Boss ... plus the awesome song is obviously awesome and fits like a glove.
 
Should have simply put a contract on waynegrows head and left town like planned.
Yeah , it was an uncharacteristic mistake by Neil , but i believe the point was to show how serious he was and how personal it was for him.
 
Great fucking movie. What I love most about it is not so much the main plot line itself (which in itself is fucking great), but rather the glimpse into the personal lives of all the men involved.

Pacino's dealing with a loveless marriage and a daughter with emotional/psychological problems. Deniro finds himself drawn to a demure artist but is trying to not let himself get too attached. Kilmer is trying to keep his relationship with Judd and her son together. The getaway driver is fresh out of a stint in prison and is trying to walk the straight and narrow path with the support of his loving girlfriend.

So many great subplots. These are not two-dimensional characters, but living, breathing people with lives of their own. The lengths that Mann went through to depict these character's lives only increases the stakes when they clash in a cops vs. robbers capacity. You don't want to see them die because you know what they stand to lose in their personal lives.
Well said.
 
I would have preferred a different ending, but otherwise, very good movie.
 
Robert Deniro was tbe lead in 3 of the top 5 90s movies imo. Casino, Goodfellas, and Heat
 
Ted Levine improvised that whole story during one take, much to the surprise & delight of Michael Mann.
Bang bang bang bang. Dead.
This movie is too good for flaws, best I can do is a nitpick.

Originally, the part of Neil's graphic designer love interest was supposed to be a foreigner, played by Gong Li.



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Michael Mann ended up going the Southern Belle route instead.

Can't complain too much though, Amy Brenneman was great.
It wasn't Bai Ling?

Dude loves Chinese women.

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You're probably talking about the Hollywood Shootout?

Those guys were no "crew" though. They shot like a thousand rounds, didn't even kill anyone, and then got swiss cheesed.
The film preceded the shootout. Trolls used sound footage from HEAT saying it was taken from the event, submitted to the city. There were cops on television shown crying while listening to it. One of the coldest pranks I ever saw.
 
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Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

Greatest advice I ever heard
 
Fantastic movie.

Favorite scenes... When DeNiro shoots Waynegro. When DeNiro slams Waynegro's head into the table at the diner. The conversation over coffee between Pacino and DeNiro. When DeNiro has to make the decision to leave Amy Brenneman behind at a moment's notice as he had earlier predicted. When DeNiro hears the noise in the surveillance van and calls off the heist (some of the best tension I've seen in a film).
 
Fantastic movie.

Favorite scenes... When DeNiro shoots Waynegro. When DeNiro slams Waynegro's head into the table at the diner. The conversation over coffee between Pacino and DeNiro. When DeNiro has to make the decision to leave Amy Brenneman behind at a moment's notice as he had earlier predicted. When DeNiro hears the noise in the surveillance van and calls off the heist (some of the best tension I've seen in a film).
When he calls the heist off it's fukn great.

"We walk"

Prob my favorite scene besides the armored car robbery in the beginning. I love how they pull that off.
 
And DeNiro should have made it out. I enjoyed his character so much more than Al's.

Should have simply put a contract on waynegrows head and left town like planned.

Yeah , it was an uncharacteristic mistake by Neil , but i believe the point was to show how serious he was and how personal it was for him.

I think the whole point of this was to show just how much of a professional De Niro was. He was a meticulous man when it came to planning his heists. All about the details. And the thought of running away with one loose end left behind just didn't sit right with him. So between the professional side of him, and the personal side which wanted revenge for Waingro setting everything into motion, he had no choice but to go after him.

Which stayed true to his philosophy of not forming attachments. The irony being, if he had broken his personal rule in this one instance, he'd have gotten away from the cops and would still be alive. Classic example of a [admittedly dark] hero with a tragic flaw that leads to his downfall.
 
Yeah Ted Levine is great. Speaking of criminally underrated, Levine also has a funny side role in the seen-by-almost-no-one hidden classic, Bullet. An HBO original film starring Mickey Rourke, Tupac, and Adrien Brody.

That film is horrible. I'm sorry, lol. Rourke is solid in it, but that's it.
 
Heat is a great film and they made a great decision bringing in a couple of former SAS soldiers (Andy McNab and Mick Gould) train the cast on weapons and tactics. Absolutely nailed it, cast were fantastic throughout!

2:06 the infamous Val Kilmer magazine exchange

 
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You're probably talking about the Hollywood Shootout?

Those guys were no "crew" though. They shot like a thousand rounds, didn't even kill anyone, and then got swiss cheesed.

Yeah, their kill count sucked but it's still pretty impressive that they managed to get off over 1k rounds in almost one hour in broad daylight, on the streets, and with the entire LAPD and SWAT team after their asses.

Edit: Oh snap, reading their Wikipedia, it seems like they'd pulled off several jobs before. Got $1.5 mil once. Holy shit. They were definitely a crew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
 
Heat is one of the GOAT movies ever made. The shootout scene was just awesome.
 
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