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Revisionist Islamic scholars trying to claim Aisha was much older than 9 when Mo consumated marriage

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  1. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    There are Muslim revisionist scholars trying to claim Aisha was not 9 when Muhammed consummated the marriage but rather 14 or 15 or 19.

    Tellingly this revisionism started in the early 20th century. Ancient texts do not say this. Sahih Bukhari Hadith says she was 6 at time of marriage and 9 when the marriage was consummated. All these revisionist scholars are embarrassed their prophet was a pedophile so they are trying to claim she was much older. The fact that ancient nor medieval scholars did not claim this, and it is 20th century scholars exposes their agenda.

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    http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

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    And in related news a respected Afghan Muslim cleric has been arrested for marrying a 6 year old girl. He claims she was gifted to him by the parents. The parents claim she was abducted. The article says child marriages have increased due to poverty and parents wanting to get rid of girls.

    Well he was only following the example set by the most perfect human being ever, an example for all mankind, the 1 and only Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him)

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/afghan-cle...ear-old-girl-given-religious-offering-1573399

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    I've read some news articles about some South Asian sub-cultures where the parents betroth their children when they are kids, but both genders are about the same age and the marriage isn't consummated until past puberty.
     
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  2. lts5025 "What the **** is a Dim Mack?"

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    Islam is a cancer.
     
  3. Thunderflash500 Banned Banned

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    And when people say"well it was normal back then." That's fair. Until you realize that Muslims look at him as if he's the perfect man. So if he's perfect, and he bangs kids as soon as they have their first bleeding, well than that makes it ok to still do.
     
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    14 or 15 or 19, yeah sounds legit.
     
  5. Slippery Kantus I'm necessary evil Double Yellow Card

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    Disgusting religion.
     
  6. mike sherry Banned Banned

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    Must be shitty to be born into a Muslim family. You legit have no choice but to follow their shitty religion, with the whole death for apostasy shit. Never even had a choice to enter into that death contract...
     
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    Cannot stand when people defend Islam.The whole premise of that shitty ideology is to emulate a murdering pedophile.
    You have to be mentally incompetent or a bit of a pervert.
    Fuck that shit.
     
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    It's hard to tell how old you are when dressed head to toe in flowing cloth.
     
  9. ValidArmani Blue Belt

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    Muhammad was actually really successful if you look at him through materialistic/evolutionary glasses.

    He was a successful warlord who cooked up a religion built around himself to gain materialistic power and women.
     
  10. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    Aren't you a creationist Christian?
     
  11. mike sherry Banned Banned

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    OR be born into it and when you think Islam you just think of your islamic grandmother who was the nicest person ever :/

    Religion is an inherited mental disease
     
  12. ValidArmani Blue Belt

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    I'm a christian yes. Its just funny how atheists condemn muhammad when under pure materialism he did nothing wrong at all. In fact Muhammad was a huge success when you think about it. Muhammad passed on his DNA with many many women and built up a HUGE following during his lifetime.

    How is anything muhammad did wrong according to pure materialism and evolutionary thinking? Muhammad was chasing his fleshly desires and achieved everything he wanted. Tell me how that is wrong according to pure materialism.
     
  13. vertical_leap Green Belt

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    Most atheists don't believe in "pure materialism" or whatever. They still have morals....
     
  14. Rod1 Titanium Belt

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    Isnt that a good thing? a step forward towards making Islam more modern and akin to western values?

    I dont understand you want muslims to continue marrying children?
     
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    Yes they do, I haven't met one atheist that isn't a pure materialist. Atheists have opinions on morality based on what their culture thinks is right and wrong.

    Muhammad could turn around and say that his culture is actually doing the right things. How are atheist opinions on morality better than muhammads opinions on morality?

    In the end according to evolution and materialism whoever is the strongest will be able to impose their "morality" in the end.

    I'm trying to illustrate that atheistic materialism is actually no better that islam because they both place no restrictions on behavior our christian moral structure would consider "evil".

    Atheism and materialism cannot tell us what is objectively evil. Evolution actually SUPPORTS behavior that we would consider evil.
     
  16. vertical_leap Green Belt

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    Nah, I'm a christian but atheism is 1000 times better than Islam. No doubt about that.
     
  17. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    You are simply regurgitating the classic theist attack on Atheists and Agnostics, namely that they can't be moral without believing in a supreme deity. The problem you theists have to face with this line of reasoning is:

    a) animals (other than humans) exhibit moral behavior
    b) you theists cherry-pick what you follow from the New and Old testament and if you are Muslim then you cherry-pick what you follow from the Quran.

    Slavery, stoning women for adultery , having sex with a 9 year old , genocide - are all supported in the Abrahamic religions but most people don't support them . So clearly most Christians , Jews and Muslims cherry-pick what Biblical and Quranic commands/laws they follow based on their own moral compass in-spite of their religions justifying immoral/evil behavior. So where then are these theists getting their morals from.

    So Muhammed having sex with a 9 year old does not support your argument against Atheists , rather it works against you argument by showing that theistic religions and its adherents have committed a lot of immoral acts despite professing to believe in a supreme being.
     
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    I would say if you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ you are pretty good in the morality department.
     
  19. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    Relative to Islam , Judaism and Brahminical-Hinduism I would agree. But even the NT condones slavery. The pro-slavery ante-bellum South used the Bible to justify it. Some Christians did use the Bible to attack Slavery but the pro-Slavery advocates have theology on their side.
     
  20. mike sherry Banned Banned

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    Is this just an attack on atheists or some shit? It's hard to believe you are trying to actually ask people why murder and rape are wrong..
    Honestly what the fuck are you saying you are just derailing this shit
     

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