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Review: The Anabolic Index, by David Barr

Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by MikeMartial, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. codysweet02 Brown Belt

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    2. Pre workout Nutrition will divert blood flow away from muscles during the workout.

    I dont know how many times i heard/read this. I guess i better read the last 8 also.
     
  2. WRoutson Purple Belt Professional Fighter

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    Just a question on the second post workout shake.Didn't want to start a new thread on it.

    Would it be detrimental to use a protein blend for instance cytosport evopro as the second pwo shake? Or is whey hydrolysate superior? I made my PWO shake with ON whey,instant oats,beta alanine,and water. The second shake consisted of a smaller portion of oats,spinach,and ON whey.

    Should each PWO shake be indentical,or is there room for variation?
     
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    So something like a hydrolysate with fast carbs an hour after and three hours after exercise is okay? Is the only real concern not drinking the first shake too soon?
     
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    Hydrolysate is indeed necessary for anything other than a morning protein pulse. I build off of this concept in the Protein Pulse Feeding article.

    If multiple drinks are used they should not be identical with the exception of the hydrolysate. The carbs can be greatly reduced or even eliminated in a second drink (depending on the type of preceding workout).
     
  5. David Barr Orange Belt

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    When using a high quality whey hydrolysate it's important to protein feed within an hour to ensure that there is no protein crash. This is not a concern with higher MW hydrolysates.

    I'd say that the bigger concern is consuming the drink too late, but you're right in that drinking it too soon will eliminate the benefit.
     
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    Thank you for the follow up. I kind of reckoned a book like that would be somewhat out of date by now, but still quite useful in many ways for some people.
     
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    I myself find nothing wrong with a blend. For PWO etc, never have never will. As long as its the right amounts of different types etc.
     
  8. David Barr Orange Belt

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    Vedic, just to ensure we're all on the same page: the original question and answer were referring to optimal nutritionally-induced biochemical processes, as opposed to subjective perception. These are all too often used interchangeably and but think it's critical to distinguish between them.
     
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    So if I'm understanding things correctly, it would be best to get a hydrolysate (and med-/high-GI carbs) around 60 min pre-WO to ensure blood amino acid levels peak around the time of exercise? In that case, wouldn't a whole food meal earlier before the WO have the same function?

    Also, this drinking the PWO shake too soon being potentially detrimental confused me. Would drinking a shake too late peri-WO elicit the same detrimental effects?

    And if I understood the PWO meals correctly, a hydrolysate with low-GI and another hydrolysate shake with even fewer carbs would be ideal according to you, right? Quality of the whey being the most important factor.
     
  10. Champion#1 Yellow Belt

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    Got this book in e-book form to save on shipping costs.

    Overall I think the book is a good book to read.

    The only thing I feel though is that a lot of the information that has been written in the book had already been given for free in articles written by David Barr.

    People say that whole foods are the best but the approach taken by David is very supplement orientated, using this as a quick example:

    7AM Morning Shake

    20g Whey Hydrolysate
    20g Whey Isolate
    20g Sucrose
    10g Glucose
    10g BCAA
    5g Beta Alanine
    500mg Carnitine Tartrate
    128

    8:30 Meal 2

     
  11. oyaji poi oyaji belt

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    I think meals 2 and 3 are real food meals, and the supplements listed there are to be taken with it. Usually EFA's and multi's are taken with a meal.
     
  12. Champion#1 Yellow Belt

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    Thats what I was thinking as I was like EFAs a meal" :p

    Would have been nice also to a have a summery of the book for easy reading.

    I have to keep going through the book over and over to see bits that i have missed.
     
  13. Champion#1 Yellow Belt

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    I didn't mean 'missed' I meant forgotten.
     
  14. BerserkPanda Hedgefund Banned

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    Thanks for the review, I have always loved Dave's work. I will definitely check into this and its already in the process of shipping.
     

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